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Subject: RE: Guy, AR
From: "Mike Lozano" mlozano71@...........
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:33:31 -0600


The Austin TX bird die-off happened several years ago.  They were tying =
it in to the bird kills in other areas =E2=80=A6 so much for clarity in =
news and lack thereof in my hearing.

Mike K5RLY

Lockhart, TX  78644

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From: psnlist-request@.............. =
[mailto:psnlist-request@............... On Behalf Of Len Polucci
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:56 PM
To: psnlist@..............
Subject: Re: Guy, AR

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I did see an unusual event here in Masssachusetts in front of a local =
mall...There was 1-2 dozen dead birds that were pulverized by the =
traffic in a circlular area approximately 50' Ft. in diameter. There was =
an animal control vehicle on scene. I was an animal control officer for =
13 years and have never encountered such an unusual incident. Len

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From: Mike Lozano 
To: psnlist@..............
Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 1:40:47 PM
Subject: RE: Guy, AR

I was just listening to the Noon News and apparently there=E2=80=99s =
been another massive bird die-off along Congress Ave. in Austin, Texas.  =
I=E2=80=99ll keep tuned to confirm this is in fact what I saw on the =
tube.

Mike, K5RLY

Lockhart, TX 78644

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From: psnlist-request@.............. =
[mailto:psnlist-request@............... On Behalf Of Thomas Dick
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:26 PM
To: psnlist@..............
Subject: Re: Guy, AR

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On 1/5/2011 7:47 AM, gpayton@............. wrote:=20

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Hi Chris,

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Great to see you online again!=20

Me too Chris



The gas idea was only a passing thought on my part.  I know that volcano =
activity and sometimes oil drilling releases pockets of hydrogen =
sulfide, but I don=E2=80=99t remember of a spontaneous release.  And, =
like we say, it is heavier than air.

I wasn't trying to project what gas...if any. Suppose a gas were =
involved, why would it have to be heavier than air?  Many of these =
drilling sites have catch basins lined with a blue shale. This cost =
something to build. Why? The "event" occurred during a holiday week when =
I suspect the working force would be minimal. In fact, the number of =
quakes was minimal since before Xmas.

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These Red-wing Blackbirds fly and roost by the thousands in tight =
formations.  They sometime look like clouds of undulating and changing =
smoke when flying in the distance. =20

The habits of these birds is to feed in the country and move to the =
warmer urban areas at night. This would put them in the air and away =
from populated areas when this front passed..

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I saw an TV interview with a Arkansas Game and Wildlife representative =
yesterday who said that they were looking into the fireworks possibility =
and the birds becoming frightened.  As you may know, here in the U.S. it =
is a custom sometimes to shoot off fireworks in celebration of the New =
Year.  However, this was a small rural area and I don=E2=80=99t know how =
much of a fireworks display they may have had.  That is questionable in =
my mind.

When this excuse was offered it sounded like some sort of coverup.  =
There is an article out of Lake charles, LA area that suggests a type of =
mold. As far as the theory of disease, sick birds would settle on a =
perch. Many of these birds exhibited injuries that indicated they were =
in flight and crashed to earth;  the same with the "event" in Louisiana. =


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I know that in Dallas, Texas there is a park downtown that is a frequent =
roosting spot for similar type birds.  They reappeared each year causing =
a lot of noise and mess from their droppings, creating a big health =
hazard.   The city tried using fireworks to frighten them away and =
didn=E2=80=99t work.

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However, fireworks were the leading theory, as of last night.

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Being a meteorology =E2=80=9Cnerd=E2=80=9D, I also know that tornadoes =
have cause similar events in the past, even sucking fish from lakes.  =
There WAS a tornado event in Cincinnati, AR that same night.  It was =
probably more than a hundred miles West of the bird event though.  The =
line of storms did move NE and would have probably passed over that area =
later.  I do not know the exact timeline for each occurrence.

The storm hit Cincinnati AR at about  6AM, passed south of Springfield. =
It moved ENE toward St. Louis. Another storm cell moved toward Memphis =
TN from the Jackson, MI area. I think you will see that this was more an =
embedded tornado. A gust front was not reported. The storm weakened as =
it moved east and by middle of the afternoon had lost it punch in =
Illinois and west of Memphis.

  As you suggest, lightening or hail is a possibility too.  I=E2=80=99ve =
heard not mention of that occurring at the time, but is another theory.

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There are now three reported instances of bird deaths; Lake Charles, La, =
, middle Mississippi(New Roads/Morganza area) and Beebe, AR. =20

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The Austin TX bird die-off happened several years ago.=C2=A0 They = were tying it in to the bird kills in other areas =E2=80=A6 so much for = clarity in news and lack thereof in my hearing.

Mike K5RLY

Lockhart, TX=C2=A0 78644

 

From: psnlist-request@.............. = [mailto:psnlist-request@............... On Behalf Of Len = Polucci
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:56 = PM
To: psnlist@..............
Subject: Re: Guy, = AR

 

I did = see an unusual event here in Masssachusetts in front of a local = mall...There was 1-2 dozen dead birds that were pulverized by the = traffic in a circlular area approximately 50' Ft. in diameter. There was = an animal control vehicle on scene. I was an animal control officer for = 13 years and have never encountered such an unusual incident. = Len

 


From:= = Mike Lozano <mlozano71@...........>
To: = psnlist@..............
Sent: Wed, January 5, 2011 1:40:47 = PM
Subject: RE: Guy, AR

I was just listening to the Noon News and apparently there=E2=80=99s = been another massive bird die-off along Congress Ave. in Austin, = Texas.  I=E2=80=99ll keep tuned to confirm this is in fact what I = saw on the tube.

Mike, K5RLY

Lockhart, TX 78644

 

From: psnlist-request@.............. = [mailto:psnlist-request@............... On Behalf Of Thomas = Dick
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:26 PM
To: = psnlist@..............
Subject: Re: Guy, = AR

 

On 1/5/2011 = 7:47 AM, gpayton@............. wrote: =

 

 =

Hi = Chris,

 =

Great to see you online = again!

Me too = Chris

The = gas idea was only a passing thought on my part.  I know that = volcano activity and sometimes oil drilling releases pockets of hydrogen = sulfide, but I don=E2=80=99t remember of a spontaneous release.  = And, like we say, it is heavier than = air.

I wasn't trying to = project what gas...if any. Suppose a gas were involved, why would it = have to be heavier than air?  Many of these drilling sites have = catch basins lined with a blue shale. This cost something to build. Why? = The "event" occurred during a holiday week when I suspect the = working force would be minimal. In fact, the number of quakes was = minimal since before Xmas.

  =

 =

These Red-wing Blackbirds fly = and roost by the thousands in tight formations.  They sometime look = like clouds of undulating and changing smoke when flying in the = distance. 

The habits of these = birds is to feed in the country and move to the warmer urban areas at = night. This would put them in the air and away from populated areas when = this front passed..

 =

I saw an TV interview with a = Arkansas Game and = Wildlife representative yesterday who said that they were = looking into the fireworks possibility and the birds becoming = frightened.  As you may know, here in the U.S. it is a custom = sometimes to shoot off fireworks in celebration of the New Year.  = However, this was a small rural area and I don=E2=80=99t know how much = of a fireworks display they may have had.  That is questionable in = my mind.

When this excuse was = offered it sounded like some sort of coverup.  There is an article = out of Lake charles, LA area that suggests a type of mold. As far as the = theory of disease, sick birds would settle on a perch. Many of these = birds exhibited injuries that indicated they were in flight and crashed = to earth;  the same with the "event" in Louisiana. =

 =

I know that in Dallas, Texas = there is a park downtown that is a frequent roosting spot for similar = type birds.  They reappeared each year causing a lot of noise and = mess from their droppings, creating a big health hazard.   The = city tried using fireworks to frighten them away and didn=E2=80=99t = work.

 =

However, fireworks were the = leading theory, as of last night.

 =

Being a meteorology = =E2=80=9Cnerd=E2=80=9D, I also know that tornadoes have cause similar = events in the past, even sucking fish from lakes.  There WAS a = tornado event in Cincinnati, AR that same night.  It was probably = more than a hundred miles West of the bird event though.  The line = of storms did move NE and would have probably passed over that area = later.  I do not know the exact timeline for each = occurrence.

The storm hit = Cincinnati AR at about  6AM, passed south of Springfield. It moved = ENE toward St. Louis. Another storm cell moved toward Memphis TN from = the Jackson, MI area. I think you will see that this was more an = embedded tornado. A gust front was not reported. The storm weakened as = it moved east and by middle of the afternoon had lost it punch in = Illinois and west of Memphis.

  As you suggest, = lightening or hail is a possibility too.  I=E2=80=99ve heard not = mention of that occurring at the time, but is another = theory.

 =

There = are now three reported instances of bird deaths; Lake Charles, La, , = middle Mississippi(New Roads/Morganza area) and Beebe, AR.  =

 


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