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Subject: Re: C-Spring Sensor - 5/6 Second Period
From: "Kay Wyatt" kwyatt@.............
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:35:06 -0800


Chris,
I think there are a lot of us folks out there that would love to see any =
updates on your notes.  I can post them as you complete them. =20
Thanks also for the comments on the C-Spring stability.  it looks like =
an interesting design.  If the two C-springs are separated a little =
farther would that help the stability?  See photo at
http://www.fairpoint.net/~sparksite/CSpring%20Seismometer.jpg
Kay
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Christopher Chapman=20
  To: psnlist@.................
  Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 5:07 PM
  Subject: Re: C-Spring Sensor - 5/6 Second Period


  Subject: Re: C-Spring Sensor - 5/6 Second Period


  Hi Chris,
  Thanks for sending information on imnproving the C-Spring Sensor.  =
Just a quick correction on the link to Robert's circuit for extending =
the period of geophones.  Leave out the "epics" part of your link.
  http://www.jclahr.com/science/psn/roberts/index.html

  Hi Kay,

      Thanks for the correction. I am struggling to use a new laptop =
running Windows7, which seems to be unreliable and difficult to use. The =
 roberts address just brings up the Epics section. I would still have to =
search for the article.

  How would you compare the C-Spring sensor to an AS-1 type vertical =
seismometer modified with either a "piano wire hinge" or a razer blade =
hinge clamped at both ends?

      Piano wire and old style safety razor blades with the blades =
clamped and the two end loops flexing both make good flexures for an =
amateur vertical seismometer. The problem that I see with the C spring =
arrangement is that there are no mechanics to stabilise the lateral =
position of the mass. Depending on the sensor design, you could get =
significant sensitivity to horizontal accelerations. This could be =
reduced by a lateral wire hinge at the top end of the spring, or a V =
wire onto the mass.=20

      I intend in the near future to update my notes on John's website. =
They look pretty scrappy. I will send them through as I do them. Bob has =
also asked me to add a circuit of a period compensation amplifier, =
presumably to attach to the input end of one of Larry's amplifiers. =
Would you have any interest?

      Regards,

      Chris







Chris,
I think there are a lot of us folks out there = that would=20 love to see any updates on your notes.  I can post them as you = complete=20 them. 
Thanks also for the comments on the C-Spring=20 stability.  it looks like an interesting design.  If the two = C-springs=20 are separated a little farther would that help the stability?  See = photo=20 at
ht= tp://www.fairpoint.net/~sparksite/CSpring%20Seismometer.jpg
Kay
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Christopher=20 Chapman
To: psnlist@.............. =
Sent: Thursday, January 20, = 2011 5:07=20 PM
Subject: Re: C-Spring Sensor - = 5/6 Second=20 Period

Subject:=20 Re: C-Spring Sensor - 5/6 Second Period

Hi Chris,
Thanks for sending information on imnproving = the=20 C-Spring Sensor.  Just a quick correction on the link to Robert's = circuit=20 for extending the period of geophones.  Leave out the "epics" = part of=20 your link.
http://www.jclahr.com/science/psn/roberts/index.html<= /FONT>
 
Hi Kay,
 
    Thanks for the correction. I am struggling to = use a=20 new laptop running Windows7, which seems to be unreliable = and=20 difficult to use. The  roberts address just brings up the Epics = section.=20 I would still have to search for the article.
 
How would you compare the C-Spring sensor to = an AS-1=20 type vertical seismometer modified with either a "piano wire hinge" or = a razer=20 blade hinge clamped at both ends?
 
    Piano wire and old style = safety razor=20 blades with the blades clamped and the two end loops flexing both make = good=20 flexures for an amateur vertical seismometer. The problem that I see = with the=20 C spring arrangement is that there are no mechanics to stabilise the = lateral=20 position of the mass. Depending on the sensor design, you could get=20 significant sensitivity to horizontal accelerations. This could be = reduced by=20 a lateral wire hinge at the top end of the spring, or a V wire = onto the=20 mass. 
 
    I intend in the near future to update my notes = on=20 John's website. They look pretty scrappy. I will send them through as = I do=20 them. Bob has also asked me to add a circuit of a period = compensation=20 amplifier, presumably to attach to the input end of one of Larry's = amplifiers.=20 Would you have any interest?
 
    Regards,
 
    Chris
 

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