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Subject: Re: about the VolksMeter Force feedback instruments
From: "Dave Nelson" davefnelson@.......
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 00:36:44 -0000


Very high performance force balance vertical seismometers are well =
within the capabilities of the amateur seismology community. Instruments =
with extremely low noise at long periods with bandwidths which cover 30 =
Hz down to .02 Hz ( 50 seconds period ) are operating at a number of =
amateur sites. The genius of Wielandt and Strekeisen  and Guralp  made =
the force balance system  practical and ultimately made it the ONLY =
technique in  general use for high sensitivity long period seismic =
instrumentation. It does not take genius to understand their techniques =
and apply them to an amateur instrument with excellent performance.  =20
=20
The technique is not some mysterious magic beyond the scope of any but =
the most sophisticated professional.  Amateur Force balance  vertical =
instruments were initially built and demonstrated by Sean Thomas =
Morrissey and Alan Coleman.  Understanding the electronics and the =
theory behind the feedback system  are well within the abilities of a =
typical electronics professional and many electronics hobbyists.  =
Mathematical modeling of a new design will be essential, trial and error =
does not work well on feedback systems.  A  general purpose modeling =
program for force balance systems is available. =20



 I have been developing force balance vertical instruments in =
collaboration with Brett Nordgren.  Their performance rivals the best =
professional instruments when operating at a typical site. These =
instruments normally observe several teleseismic events per day -- not =
just an occasional response resulting from a very large magnitude event. =
=20
=20
These instruments will operate over a large (50C) temperature range =
without re-centering.  They are very stable and have noise spectra at =
long periods which is dominated by site noise not instrument noise. Note =
that the long period corner frequency of the amateur instrument was =
chosen to be 50 seconds while the best professional instruments have =
responses to 120, 240 or 360 seconds. In order to use commonly available =
spring material and still have a wide operating temperature range, the =
long period corner was limited to 50 seconds. Even with this limitation =
earth eigenmodes at periods of 300 seconds  have been seen clearly in =
the trace following large seismic  events.=20
=20
There are no  special challenges in accomplishing this performance--in =
fact making non feedback instrument is in many ways more difficult. =20


They are so sensitive they MUST be operated in  pressure sealed case =
with a rigid base  (I use a 2 inch granite surface plate)  to eliminate =
flexure of the base and noise from the changing buoyancy of the proof =
mass. Both effects are the result of the normal short term  fluctuations =
in atmospheric pressure. This is the only complicating factor but not a =
great technical challenge.
=20
The results of one of my instruments is posted on the PSN Current =
Seismicity page. Compare the response of this instruments with others =
posted on PSN. =20

http://psn.quake.net/currentseismicity.html    The proof is in the =
traces. =20

=20

More information and photographs of two designs may be seen on =
http://bnordgren.org/seismo/gif_images.htm  and  =
http://bnordgren.org/seismo/Ygif_images.htm  =20


Dave Nelson
Rolling  Hills Estates California=20

Brett Nordgren







From: Randall Peters=20
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:00 PM
To: 'psnlist@..................
Subject: about the VolksMeter


By way of Chris Chapman, it has come to my attention that a significant =
number of readers of this list-serve are=20

misinformed concerning the nature and performance of the VolksMeter =
seismograph.  Even though the gravitational pendulum=20

in the VolksMeter has a period of only about 1 second, that doesn't mean =
the instrument is limited to sensing only local=20

earthquakes, as with conventional short-period seismometers.  Several =
VolksMeters around the world--such as mine here at=20

Mercer University, or Michael Phillips' seismograph at the Edward Pigot =
Seismic Observatory near Coonabarabran,=20

Australia--routinely pick up the surface waves from teleseismic events.  =
The outstanding broadband performance of the=20

VolksMeter that allows these measurements, involves two novel features: =
(i) the unique sensor of fully-differential=20

capacitive type that allows pendulum deflection measurements (position =
rather than velocity) all the way from 10 Hz down=20

to d.c., and (ii) the outstanding electronics that was developed by =
Larry Cochrane to work with this sensor.  Operation=20

is by means of WinSDR and WinQuake, and the heart of the system is the =
Analog Devices AD7745 capacitance to digital (24=20

bit) converter.  As such, the VolksMeter is the first "fully-digital" =
seismograph--because the sensor, along with the=20

support electronics for data storage and communication, is completely =
digital (excepting the moving electrodes that are=20

attached to the pendulum).  Commercial seismographs still use analog =
electronics to measure changes in a capacitive=20

sensor of lower symmetry and reduced sensitivity compared to the sensor =
of the VolksMeter.  They use a separate analog=20

to digital converter to provide data storage capability and uplinks to =
the web.  Operation of these commercial=20

instruments is further complicated by the challenges of force feedback =
needed to maintain stable performance, free from=20

the problems of mechanical creep.  By comparison, a gravitational =
pendulum can be made nearly immune to mechanical=20

instabilities, without using the complicated electronics of feedback. In =
general, sensitivity of an instrument can be=20

increased by either of two means--(i) using less-sophisticated =
electronics, but operating with a mechanical system made=20

highly sensitive by period lengthening, or (ii) by working with a much =
more stable, shorter period instrument in the=20

form of a gravitational pendulum, that is supported by superior =
electronics.  The former requires genius of the type=20

that was exhibited by Gunar Streckeisen in the building of instruments =
like the STS-1 and 2.  The latter requires a=20

genius in circuit development, in the person of someone like Larry =
Cochrane, to create a state of the art electronics=20

package for seismic use--the very package that is resident in the =
VolksMeter.  Because there are significantly different=20

seismic instruments that are described by the term, I am being here =
careful to associate the adjective 'gravitational' with the=20

word pendulum.  Unlike these other instruments, where the oscillating =
member is also called a 'pendulum', the equilibrium=20

direction of a gravitational pendulum (in the absence of acceleration or =
tilt influence) is that of a plumb bob=20

(direction of the earth's gravitational field).  A detailed description =
of the physics of such instruments is provided in=20

my article titled "Tutorial on gravitational pendulum theory applied to =
seismic sensing of translation and rotation",=20

Bulletin of the Seismological Society of America, Vol. 99, No. 2B, =
(2009).







Very high = performance force=20 balance vertical seismometers are well within the capabilities of the = amateur=20 seismology community. Instruments with extremely low noise at long = periods with=20 bandwidths which cover 30 Hz down to .02 Hz ( 50 seconds period ) are = operating=20 at a number of amateur sites. The genius of Wielandt and = Strekeisen  and=20 Guralp  made the force balance system  practical and = ultimately made=20 it the ONLY technique in  general use for high sensitivity long = period=20 seismic instrumentation. It does not take genius to understand their = techniques=20 and apply them to an amateur instrument with excellent = performance.  =20
 
The technique = is not some=20 mysterious magic beyond the scope of any but the most sophisticated=20 professional.  Amateur Force balance  vertical instruments = were=20 initially built and demonstrated by Sean Thomas Morrissey and Alan = Coleman.  Understanding the electronics = and the=20 theory behind the feedback system  are well within the abilities of = a=20 typical electronics professional and many electronics hobbyists. =20 Mathematical modeling of a new design will be essential, trial and error = does=20 not work well on feedback systems.  A =20 general purpose modeling program for force balance systems is available. =  

 

 I have been developing force balance vertical = instruments=20 in collaboration with Brett Nordgren.  Their performance rivals the = best=20 professional instruments when operating at a typical site. These = instruments=20 normally observe several teleseismic events per day -- not just an = occasional=20 response resulting from a very large magnitude event. =20
 
These = instruments will=20 operate over a large (50C) temperature range without re-centering.  = They=20 are very stable and have noise spectra at long periods which is = dominated by=20 site noise not instrument noise. Note that the long period corner = frequency of=20 the amateur instrument was chosen to be 50 seconds while the best = professional=20 instruments have responses to 120, 240 or 360 seconds. In order to use = commonly=20 available spring material and still have a wide operating temperature = range, the=20 long period corner was limited to 50 seconds. Even with this limitation = earth=20 eigenmodes at periods of 300 seconds  have been seen clearly in the = trace=20 following large seismic  events.
 
There are no  special challenges in = accomplishing=20 this performance--in fact making non feedback instrument is in many ways = more=20 difficult.  


They are so sensitive they MUST be operated = in =20 pressure sealed case with a rigid base  (I use a 2 inch granite = surface=20 plate)  to eliminate flexure of the base and noise from the = changing=20 buoyancy of the proof mass. Both effects are the result of the normal = short=20 term  fluctuations in atmospheric pressure. This is the only = complicating=20 factor but not a great technical challenge.
 
The results of one of my instruments is posted = on the=20 PSN Current Seismicity page. Compare the response of this = instruments=20 with others posted on PSN.  

http://psn.quake.net/currentseismicity.html   =20 The proof is in the traces. =20

 

More = information and=20 photographs of two designs may be seen on http://bnordgren.org/seismo/gif_images.htm  = and  http://bnordgren.org/seismo/Ygif_images.htm  =20

 
Dave=20 Nelson
Rolling =20 Hills Estates California
 
Brett=20 Nordgren
 


From: Randall Peters
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2011 11:00 PM
To: 'psnlist@............... =
Subject: about the VolksMeter

By way of Chris Chapman, it has come to my = attention that a=20 significant number of readers of this list-serve are

misinformed concerning the nature and performance = of the=20 VolksMeter seismograph.  Even though the gravitational pendulum=20

in the VolksMeter has a period of only about 1 = second, that=20 doesn't mean the instrument is limited to sensing only local =

earthquakes, as with conventional short-period=20 seismometers.  Several VolksMeters around the world--such as mine = here at=20

Mercer University, or Michael Phillips' seismograph = at the=20 Edward Pigot Seismic Observatory near Coonabarabran,

Australia--routinely pick up the surface waves from = teleseismic events.  The outstanding broadband performance of the=20

VolksMeter that allows these measurements, involves = two novel=20 features: (i) the unique sensor of fully-differential

capacitive type that allows pendulum deflection = measurements=20 (position rather than velocity) all the way from 10 Hz down =

to d.c., and (ii) the outstanding electronics that = was=20 developed by Larry Cochrane to work with this sensor.  Operation=20

is by means of WinSDR and WinQuake, and the heart = of the=20 system is the Analog Devices AD7745 capacitance to digital (24 =

bit) converter.  As such, the VolksMeter is = the first=20 "fully-digital" seismograph--because the sensor, along with the =

support electronics for data storage and = communication, is=20 completely digital (excepting the moving electrodes that are =

attached to the pendulum).  Commercial = seismographs=20 still use analog electronics to measure changes in a capacitive =

sensor of lower symmetry and reduced sensitivity = compared to=20 the sensor of the VolksMeter.  They use a separate analog =

to digital converter to provide data storage = capability and=20 uplinks to the web.  Operation of these commercial

instruments is further complicated by the = challenges of force=20 feedback needed to maintain stable performance, free from =

the problems of mechanical creep.  By = comparison, a=20 gravitational pendulum can be made nearly immune to mechanical =

instabilities, without using the complicated = electronics of=20 feedback. In general, sensitivity of an instrument can be =

increased by either of two means--(i) using=20 less-sophisticated electronics, but operating with a mechanical system = made=20

highly sensitive by period lengthening, or (ii) by = working=20 with a much more stable, shorter period instrument in the =

form of a gravitational pendulum, that is supported = by=20 superior electronics.  The former requires genius of the type=20

that was exhibited by Gunar Streckeisen in the = building of=20 instruments like the STS-1 and 2.  The latter requires a =

genius in circuit development, in the person of = someone like=20 Larry Cochrane, to create a state of the art electronics

package for seismic use--the very package that is = resident in=20 the VolksMeter.  Because there are significantly different =

seismic instruments that are described by the term, = I am=20 being here careful to associate the adjective 'gravitational' with the=20

word pendulum.  Unlike these other = instruments, where=20 the oscillating member is also called a 'pendulum', the equilibrium=20

direction of a gravitational pendulum (in the = absence of=20 acceleration or tilt influence) is that of a plumb bob

(direction of the earth's gravitational field). =  A=20 detailed description of the physics of such instruments is provided in=20

my article titled "Tutorial on gravitational = pendulum theory=20 applied to seismic sensing of translation and rotation",

Bulletin of the Seismological Society of America, = Vol. 99,=20 No. 2B, (2009).


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