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Subject: Re: CME's result in seismic activity
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F3n_Fr=EDmann?= jonfr@.........
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:23:41 +0100


Hi Mark,

Given the number of earthquakes / number of solar flares there is no
correlation at all. Most of the years 2007 to 2011 there where few to
none sun spots and even fewer solar flares. That I know because I
monitor the sunspots also for solar flares. You even have longer period
in history known as little ice age where there was few to none sun
spots, even in that period a large earthquakes are known to have
happened.

This study does not keep up with the facts in this matter. That is a
fact. In fact, I also see that this study is full of errors, flaws and
wrong assumsions. It only provies sunspots =3D earthquakes but does not
give a time scale for it and with that removes the data that proves that
this study is in fact wrong.

Regards,
J=F3n Fr=EDmann.=20

On sun, 2011-03-13 at 19:33 +1300, Mark Robinson wrote:
> J=F3n,
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> http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0602208 indicates that solar flares and=20
> earthquakes share very similar distributions but does not examine correla=
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> between the two.
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> It is easy to theorise that solar flares, which have a large magnetic=20
> component, impacting on earth could disturb the big magnet in the middle.=
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> Remember that aurora happen at the poles. The deeper an earthquake the lo=
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> the frequencies that we see on the surface. Without doing any formal anal=
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> my own observation is that eigenmode activity often precedes large quakes=
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> it did in the case of the Japanese event. Similarly impacts of CMEs often=
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> precede eigenmode activity.
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> Dismissing scientific curiosity out of hand does you no credit, perhaps y=
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> could cite some references for your arguments. Some reasoning might be ni=
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> especially as I seem to remember you yourself saying many similar things =
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> over the years.
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> The position that "earthquakes can't be predicted therefore anyone who wi=
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> to explore the possibility is nuts" is closer to religion than science.
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> Mark
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> On 13/03/11 18:48, J=F3n Fr=EDmann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The answer is still no.
> >
> > Regards,
> > J=F3n Fr=EDmann.
> >
> > On lau, 2011-03-12 at 21:41 -0800, Dick Habegger wrote:
> >> Thank you for your reply, Jon. I value your comments.
> >>
> >> However, USGS spent many years in denial that there was a relationship
> >> to earthquakes on the opposite sides of the Earth.
> >> We, in our HAM Seismic Precursor Net decided that there was a relation=
ship.
> >> Now, Kate Hutton, et al, at JPL have expressed this relationship.
> >> Also, they are warning of a major Earthquake in the California region.
> >> This is a departure of previous comments and answers to questions.
> >> My discussions with Waverly Pearson at Golden, had other similar
> >> comments; especially with the New Madrid Fault.
> >>
> >> Also, Jim Berkland was ridiculed with his Dog and Cat Reports (missing
> >> in want-ads).
> >> And, his idea of Full/New Moon stress triggering stress lines.
> >> Now, these are discussed in many quarters and countries.
> >>
> >> Therefore, I suggest more thought and study with CME's.
> >> Why is do both happen  I am a believer that there is nothing as
> >> "coincidence". Only the rules have not been developed yet.
> >> I will leave it at that point since I am far below the talents of this
> >> group.
> >> Just think, the island of Japan moved 8 feet! Try that at home, folks!
> >>
> >> Dick Habegger
> >> Phelan, CA
> >>
> >> On 3/12/2011 8:12 PM, J=F3n Fr=EDmann wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> The answer is no.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> J=F3n Fr=EDmann.
> >>>
> >>> On lau, 2011-03-12 at 20:07 -0800, Dick Habegger wrote:
> >>>>> AURORAS IN THE USA:  A coronal mass ejection (CME) hit Earth's
> >>>>> magnetic field on March 10th.  The impact set off a G1-class
> >>>>> geomagnetic storm and sent Northern Lights rippling over the
> >>>>> US-Canadian border into states such as Wisconsin, Minnesota, and
> >>>>> Michigan. Sky watchers who hadn't seen auroras in years captured
> >>>>> beautiful photos of green and purple streamers.  This is another si=
gn
> >>>>> that Solar Cycle 24 is heating up.  Checkhttp://spaceweather.com  f=
or
> >>>>> photos and updates.
> >>>> I have been receiving reports from spaceweather.com that the Sun has
> >>>> been having major sunspot activity lately. The same period has seen
> >>>> major earthquakes on Earth. Is there a correlation between the event=
s?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dick Habegger
> >>>> Phelan, CA
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