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Subject: Re: SuperHetrodyne FM or AM Seismic Sensor ?
From: Christopher Chapman chrisatupw@.......
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 07:17:53 -0400 (EDT)

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Subject: SuperHetrodyne FM or AM Seismic Sensor ?

Has anyone ever heard of the following Idea ?
uperHetrodyne FM or AM Seismic Sensor.
Hi Geoff,
The amplitude you detect with AM modulation on a RF signal varies with =
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the signal strength. To use this for a seismometer you would almost certain=
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need to measure both the amplitude of the modulation and the amplitude of t=
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RF signal and scale one with the other. Anothe problem is that seismic sign=
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are mostly below 10 Hz, maybe even down to 1/100 Hz. Any signal reflected o=
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the ionosphere will show large variations. More local signals may show chan=
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with trees moving in the wind, with rain and with snow and even passing=20
vehicles.=20
With FM modulation of an RF signal, the amplitude is represented by th=
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frequency deviation from the mean and the oscillatory component by the rate=
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change of the frequency deviation. These can be detected absolutely whateve=
r the
signal strength. You would need to convert the ac geophone signal into a=20
frequency signal and use this to modulate the RF transmitter. A standard FM=
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detector would recover the frequency signal. I would not expect the frequen=
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stability of an ordinary RF signal oscillator to be sufficiently drift free=
.
Geophone networks usually convert the ac output signals into 12 bit dig=
ital=20
signals and then transmit the serial pulse sequences.=20
Regards,
Chris =20

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Subject: SuperHetrodyne FM or AM Seismic Sensor ?

Has an=
yone ever heard of the following Idea ?
SuperHetrodyne FM or AM Seismic Sensor.

Hi Geoff,    The amplitude you detect with AM modulation on a RF sig=
nal varies with  the signal strength. To use this fo=
r a seismometer you would almost certainly <=
/FONT>need to m=
easure both the amplitude of the modulation =
and the amplitude of the RF signal and scale one with the other. Anothe problem is that seismic=
signals are mostly below 10 Hz, maybe even down to =
1/100 Hz. Any signal reflected off the ionosphere will show large variations. More =
local signals may show changes with trees moving in the wind, with rain and with sn=
ow and even passing vehicles. <=
FONT size=3D2>     With FM modulation of an=
RF signal, the amplitude is represented by the frequency deviation from the mean and the os=
cillatory component by the rate of change of the frequency deviation. These can be detected =
absolutely whatever thesignal strength. You would need to convert the ac geophone signal int=
o a frequency sig=
nal and use this to modulate the RF transmitter. A standard FM detector would recover the fr=
equency signal. I would not expect the frequency stability of an ordinary RF signal oscillat=
or to be sufficiently drift free.    Geophone networks usually convert the ac output signals=
into 12 bit digital signals and then transmit the serial pulse sequences.     Regards,    Chris

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