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Subject: RE: Italians charge seismologists.
From: "Stephen Hammond" shammon1@.............
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:14:57 -0700

Hi Mauro, nice to hear from you. Thanks for posting this information
again. There is a similar case here in California that occurred before
1900 where the political class stopped all publication of an earthquake.
A new town was located west of the California capital and the land
around the town was to be sold to the new people coming from the East
coast of USA. But, the town was destroyed before it could be populated.
The political class behind the sale of the land influenced the local
news papers and government officials to stop the creation of any written
records. John Lahr told me that to this day you cannot find any written
record of the event yet the foundations of the building have been
located along the fault line and based on the amount of destruction
geologist think the event was larger than a 6.0 but could not establish
an exact date or time of the event.

Mauro, I have a question, what is the current URL of the IESN wed site?

Thanks-- Steve Hammond PSN San Jose

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Subject: Re: Italians charge seismologists.


i already posted a comment on this.
I know perfectly all question involved.
In this case it is not a problem of the vatican which constrain science 
like happened with Galileo.
It is question of corruption and bad political and scientifical habits.

Just to make an example, in italy seismic survey organization 
systematically reduce the magnitude of eq of 0.5 point of the richter

The repeating song is always, don't worry, don't worry....for

The political class is concerned only to the public opinion not to the
fact. Everybody of IESN (the italian PSN) was waiting the shake the
night of 
5-6 april 2009. Because the seismic sequences in appenninian mountains 
are well known and the seismic sequence was strongly anomalous and 
sounded dangerous.
We know historical seismicity of the area.
Italy is an old continent with scientist operating (despite the vatican)

since centuries ago.
We have detailed catalogues of the seismic site effect back to the 
romans. In italy we actually could make earthquake forecast. Please
notice: I said forecast, not prediction.

By the worst Giampaolo Giuliani spreaded his prediction that had sense 
(in my opinion) not because he invented a new system, but rather because

he (like me and others) was convinced that the seismic sequence was 
Having he spreaded this catastrophic news the authorities felt damaged 
in their images and acted the opposite!!
Of course Giuliani acted following his conscience.
The court will judge if 7 people charged has followed their conscience 
or not.
The fact is that many many people re-entered in the home more or less 
forced by the Civil Defense instructed by the Risk Commitee.

There is a scientific article which shows that there is a correlation 
between corruption and deaths in area affected by natural disasters. In
italy we have too much corruption.

I am italian, i can only ask sorry and do my best to avoid this 
corruption habits.

I don't expect any justice...

Mauro Mariotti


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