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Subject: Re: New Seismo
From: Christopher Chapman chrisatupw@.......
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 22:39:30 -0400 (EDT)






 dave.nelson@...............
Subject: Re: New Seismo


hi Chris
       Am really at the end of the rope here ... just total frustration... =
 spent all day=20
yesterday improving the period got down to 11 sec. set up a magnetic dampen=
ing system
 with a strip of aluminium  1.5cm wide going in between the 2 magnets.
  The only thing that seems to achieve is dropping my period from 11 sec do=
wn to=20
~ 7 sec.  It doesnt appear to do any actual dampening  as the unit will jus=
t go on=20
oscillating for ages and just slowly dying down on its own  see...=20
http://www.sydneystormcity.com/screen%20dump.bmp

 Hi Dave,

    I can't see from your photo how the magnet is mounted to interact with =
the Aluminium=20
blade, or what sort of magnet it is. Can you explain further, please ? What=
 thickness is=20
the aluminium sheet and is it soft Aluminium or hard Aluminium Alloy, pleas=
e ? I use 1/16"=20
thick copper sheet, but you can use 1 mm thick sheet. Aluminium is weakly d=
ia-magnetic.=20
The damper should NOT reduce the period ! This suggests that the magnet is =
attracted to=20
something on the arm ?

    Look at the drawings of my damper system. IT WORKS JUST FINE !=20
    See http://www.jclahr.com/science/psn/chapman/lehman/index.html=20

****BTW  I did take your bottom pivot advice. I have a flat steel plate on =
the end of the=20
boom against the ball in the vertical


    Are the ball bearing AND the steel plate BOTH made of HARDENED Stainles=
s Steel, please ?
I use a medical Swann-Morton scalpel blade cut to a convenient length using=
 a Dremmel silicon=20
carbide cutting disk. Ordinary steel will rust and Austenitic stainless is =
too soft --- if=20
you can file it, it is no good !=20

   The reason that I am querying this, is that I can set the period of my L=
ehman to 25 seconds=20
DEAD EASILY ! I have run it at a period of 60 seconds !=20
=20
****maybe you can help further ?   :)

    Does this help ? Let me know.=20

    Regards,=20

    Chris Chapman


****BTW  I did take your bottom pivot advice. I have a flat steel plate on =
the end of the=20
boom against the ball in the vertical


    Are the ball bearing AND the steel plate BOTH made of HARDENED Stainles=
s Steel, please ?
I use a medical Swann-Morton scalpel blade cut to a convenient length using=
 a Dremmel silicon=20
carbide cutting disk. Ordinary steel will rust and Austenitic stainless is =
too soft --- if=20
you can file it, it is no good !=20

   The reason that I am querying this, is that I can set the period of my L=
ehman to 25 seconds=20
DEAD EASILY ! I have run it at a period of 60 seconds !=20
=20
****maybe you can help further ?   :)

    Does this help ? Let me know.=20

    Regards,=20

    Chris Chapman


****BTW  I did take your bottom pivot advice. I have a flat steel plate on =
the end of the=20
boom against the ball in the vertical


    Are the ball bearing AND the steel plate BOTH made of HARDENED Stainles=
s Steel, please ?
I use a medical Swann-Morton scalpel blade cut to a convenient length using=
 a Dremmel silicon=20
carbide cutting disk. Ordinary steel will rust and Austenitic stainless is =
too soft --- if=20
you can file it, it is no good !=20

   The reason that I am querying this, is that I can set the period of my L=
ehman to 25 seconds=20
DEAD EASILY ! I have run it at a period of 60 seconds !=20
=20
****maybe you can help further ?   :)

    Does this help ? Let me know.=20

    Regards,=20

    Chris Chapman


****BTW  I did take your bottom pivot advice. I have a flat steel plate on =
the end of the=20
boom against the ball in the vertical


    Are the ball bearing AND the steel plate BOTH made of HARDENED Stainles=
s Steel, please ?
I use a medical Swann-Morton scalpel blade cut to a convenient length using=
 a Dremmel silicon=20
carbide cutting disk. Ordinary steel will rust and Austenitic stainless is =
too soft --- if=20
you can file it, it is no good !=20

   The reason that I am querying this, is that I can set the period of my L=
ehman to 25 seconds=20
DEAD EASILY ! I have run it at a period of 60 seconds !=20
=20
****maybe you can help further ?   :)

    Does this help ? Let me know.=20

    Regards,=20

    Chris Chapman

=  dave.nelson@........... om.au
Subject: Re: New Seismo

hi Chris
       Am really at the end of the rope here = .... just total frustration...  spent all day
yesterday improving the period got down to 11 sec. set up a magnetic dampen= ing system
 with a strip of aluminium  1.5cm wide going in between the 2 mag= nets.
  The only thing that seems to achieve is dropping my period from 11 s= ec down to
~ 7 sec.  It doesnt appear to do any actual dampening  as the uni= t will just go on
oscillating for ages and just slowly dying down on its own  s= ee...
http://www.sydneystormcity.com/screen%20dump.bmp

 
Hi Dave,
    I can't see from your photo how the magnet is m= ounted to interact with the Aluminium
blade, or what sort of magnet it is. Can you explain further, plea= se ? What thickness is
the aluminium sheet and is it soft Aluminium or hard Aluminium All= oy, please ? I use 1/16"
thick copper sheet, but you can use 1 mm thick sheet. Aluminium is= weakly dia-magnetic.
The damper should NOT reduce the period ! This suggests that the m= agnet is attracted to
something on the arm ?
 
    Look at the drawings of my damper system. IT WO= RKS JUST FINE ! 
=
****BTW  I did take your bottom pivot advice. I have a flat steel plat= e on the end of the
boom against the ball in the vertical
=  
=     Are the ball bearing AND the steel plate BOTH made o= f HARDENED Stainless Steel, please ?
= I use a medical Swann-Morton scalpel blade cut to a convenient len= gth using a Dremmel silicon 
= carbide cutting disk. Ordinary steel will rust and Austenitic stainless= is too soft --- if
= you can file it, it is no good !
=  
=    The reason that I am querying this, is that I can set the = period of my Lehman to 25 seconds 
= DEAD EASILY ! I have run it at a period of 60 seconds ! =
=  
****maybe you can help further ?   :)
=     Does this help ? Let me know.
=  
=     Regards,
=  
=     Chris Chapman
<=

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