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Subject: Re: Pot and Tube Horizontal Seismometer
From: Brett Nordgren brett3nt@.............
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:45:38 -0400
Chuck,
Thanks for your comments. My equations were generated from scratch,
treating the fluid as moving as a cylindrical mass and the height
imbalance as the cause of a restoring force, and then I just used the
spring-mass equations for frequency. Do you happen to have a copy of
the RSI paper?
I can see their point, that only a the central portion of the fluid
moves at full velocity, with a parabolic velocity distribution across
the tube diameter falling to zero at the wall, though our results
should at most differ by some percentage.
So I tried it. Using their formula on the latest FMES design gives a
1.42Hz natural frequency vs the 1.63Hz I was computing, 15%
different, which are close enough to what we observe that we probably
couldn't reliably tell which was closer. I think that they are
probably right, and I may want to look into trying to tweak my
formulas to accommodate a parabolic velocity curve. I also need to
see how doing that might affect the frequency corners of the velocity
response. I know the formula I am using for the damping does assume
parabolic velocity so the corners will probably be correct, when
taken relative to a correct center frequency.
Regards,
Brett
At 01:18 PM 8/1/2011, you wrote:
>All,
>
>I believe there is an error in the FMES spreadsheet just
>posted. The correct natural frequency for a "pot and tube"
>tiltmeter/horizontal seismometer is:
>
>(omega nought)^2 = ((3/2) g)/(2L +l(R^2/r^2)),
>
>where g is acceleration due to gravity, L is height of liquid in the
>pot, l is length of the tube, R is pot radius and r is tube
>radius. The complication is due to non-uniform speed of liquid flow
>in a tube, maximum at the center, zero in contact with the
>tube. Steen and Casey, Theory of the Manometer Accelerometer, Rev
>Sci Instr, Nov., 1953, p1021-1028. gives a complete derivation.
>
>Chuck Burch
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