Randall PetersTo: 'psnlist@............... Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:47 Subject: capacitive sensors Brett, Your equivalent displacement threshold resolution of 40 nm is quite im= pressive, since you are measuring the motion of a large inertial mass. But= this is probably not a limit imposed by your capacitive sensor. In gener= al, seismometer limitations are the result of one or the other of (i) elect= ronics, or (ii) the =E2=80=98spring=E2=80=99. The latter is a consequence = of the fact that there are no perfect macro-scale springs; i.e., ones that = obey Hooke=E2=80=99s law, which we routinely teach to physics students as t= hough they describe the real world. My friend and colleague, Tom Erber, wh= o recently retired from Illinois Tech University=E2=80=94demonstrated exper= imentally that only with =E2=80=98spring displacements=E2=80=99 approaching= atomic dimensions, could a Hooke=E2=80=99s law approximation be possibly a= chieved. In other words, by looking at incredibly small motions using an a= tomic force microscope. So a seismometer responds not only to changes (acc= elerations) of its external environment, but ALSO (which so few folks reall= y appreciate) to changes that happen in the spring itself. These are espec= ially troublesome when one wants to look at earth motions that are =E2=80= =9Clow and slow=E2=80=9D. =20 A capacitive sensor with a large electric field between the plates (th= e parameter that ultimately determines its threshold sensitivity) can measu= re down to 0.1 nm, even at room temperature. This was the displacement thr= eshold of the capacitive sensor that I used as a student while at Oak Ridge= National Laboratory in the late 1960=E2=80=99s. The sensor was one that o= perated on gap spacing change of parallel plates that had been polished opt= ically flat to better than a half-wavelength of visible light, and spaced n= ominally about 5 micro-meters (microns) apart. Motion of one plate, relati= ve to the other, was due to 30 and 60 MHz longitudinally excited (pulse ech= o) ultrasound waves in a single crystal. By measuring the 2nd harmonic (r= elative to the fundamental), I could thus determine as a function of temper= ature the =E2=80=9Celastic anharmonicity=E2=80=9D of copper (due to the 3rd= order elastic constants) along each of the three principal axes. In rece= nt years I have recognized the importance of =E2=80=9Cdamping anharmonicity= =E2=80=9D as well as the elastic anharmonicity that I studied as a student.= I was greatly satisfied to have finally published something significant o= n this topic in the 10th edition of the McGraw Hill Encyclopedia of Science= and Technology. It has gained acceptance by at least the chemistry commun= ity, as seen by the =E2=80=98Chem-wiki=E2=80=99 page online at http://chem= wiki.ucdavis.edu/Physical_Chemistry/Quantum_Mechanics/Quantum_Theory/Trappe= d_Particles/Anharmonic_Oscillator If you type into Google the following keywords (without the tick mark= s causing a literal search): =E2=80=98anharmonic oscillator access science=E2=80=9D You should then be able to read the full article by clicking on the 2nd = link of the first page that gets displayed. =20 Even though my ultrasonic system sensitivity was impressive at 0.1 nm,= some Russians were able with cryogenic electronics to do a hundred times b= etter, approaching the size of atomic nuclei. So thus I am confident that = the ultimate resolution of a seismograph does not derive from the limitatio= ns of a capacitive sensor. But don=E2=80=99t take my word for it. The gre= at physicist R. V. Jones (who died in the late 1990=E2=80=99s) is still quo= ted by the most knowledgeable modern =E2=80=98artisans=E2=80=99 as the ulti= mate authority on sensors of the type used in modern seismology. He noted = that two sensing types will (for reason of the physics used) outperform all= others; they are (i) capacitive, and (ii) optical. The power of the latte= r is finally beginning to be used by a small number of university research = types, at least in California. Their optics approach is the same as used b= y the Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory (LIGO) people; i.= e., measure the displacement (not the velocity) by means of a Michelson int= erferometer. Optical fibers allow such instruments to be placed way belo= w ground with minimal difficulties of the type otherwise encountered. I have done enough with capacitive sensors over the last four decades = to learn a few things through the =E2=80=98college of hard knocks=E2=80=99,= in contrast with the work of my degree from the University of Tennessee (i= nvolving the aforementioned ORNL experience). It should come as no surpris= e to anybody with very much electronics experience, that considerable benef= it is gained (when possible) by operating capacitive sensors in a different= ial mode. The improvement in SNR, especially because of better common mode= electronic rejection can be dramatic. Also, if the electronics can be con= figured to involve phase sensitive detection, still more significant gains = are possible. My research that has impacted seismology most significantly = involves the fully differential capacitive sensor that I patented. I remai= n amazed at the level of resistance I experienced in trying to publish pape= rs related to this patent. One of my papers was actually reviewed by R. V.= Jones (as was told me by editor Tom Braid of the Review of Scientific Inst= ruments). Of my sensor, Jones stated that =E2=80=9Cthe device was twice as= sensitive as the conventional (half) differential capacitive types=E2=80= =9D (for equivalent sized electrode areas total), and he liked its symmetry= , even though he was at that time =E2=80=9Ctoo old to take the time to do a= detailed theoretical analysis of it=E2=80=9D. I have written all this to hopefully encourage more folks to =E2=80= =98think outside the box=E2=80=99 of conventional wisdom. One person who h= as done so with some successes is Allan Coleman. A paper of his from sever= al years ago is posted on my webpage at http://physics.mercer.edu/hpage/mkxx1.pdf The capacitive sensor, unlike the Faraday Law (coil/magnet) veloci= ty sensor of a previous generation (World Wide Standard Seismograph Network= --WWSSN) is fundamentally a displacement sensor. I encourage you to look i= n the writings of one of the world=E2=80=99s most highly respected seismolo= gists (Erhard Wielandt). He notes that the =E2=80=9Cmodern=E2=80=9D force = balance instrument (of type perfected by his =E2=80=98sidekick=E2=80=99 Gun= ar Streckeisen, maker of the legendary STS instruments) was made to functio= n by means of force-feedback so as to behave like the earlier instruments (= such as the original form of the Sprengnether vertical that I own). I modi= fied my Sprengnether to function more naturally as a displacement-measuring= instrument, using my patented sensor. For those of you who are interested= , there is a paper that I wrote about six years ago, titled =E2=80=9CImprov= ing seismometer performance at low frequencies using newly discovered physi= cs=E2=80=9D. It is online at http://physics.mercer.edu/hpage/broad.pdf Anyone interested in following Allan Coleman in the use of my sensor f= or seismic purposes, may want to look first at a pedagogical description of= how it works. This is located on the Tel-Atomic webpage at http://www.tel= atomic.com/mechanics/sensor.html The Cavendish balance takes advantage, not only of electronics common mode = rejection, but also =E2=80=98mechanical common mode rejection=E2=80=99 that= eliminates the =E2=80=98curse worthy to students=E2=80=99 pendulous swingi= ng modes that made this classic experiment much more difficult in the past.= It may also be of interest to note that the heart of the electronics is t= he same AD7745 capacitance to digital converter (Analog Devices) that is us= ed by the VolksMeter that I created. =20 Randall=20 =20 = Randall Peters <PETERS_RD@..........>
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Sent: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:47
Subject: capacitive sensors
Brett,Your equivalent displacemen= t threshold resolution of 40 nm is quite impressive, since you are measurin= g the motion of a large inertial mass. But this is probably not a lim= it imposed by your capacitive sensor. In general, seismometer l= imitations are the result of one or the other of (i) electronics, or (ii) t= he =E2=80=98spring=E2=80=99. The latter is a consequence of the fact = that there are no perfect macro-scale springs; i.e., ones that obey Hooke= =E2=80=99s law, which we routinely teach to physics students as though they= describe the real world. My friend and colleague, Tom Erber, who rec= ently retired from Illinois Tech University=E2=80=94demonstrated experiment= ally that only with =E2=80=98spring displacements=E2=80=99 approaching atom= ic dimensions, could a Hooke=E2=80=99s law approximation be possibly achiev= ed. In other words, by looking at incredibly small motions using an a= tomic force microscope. So a seismometer responds not only to changes= (accelerations) of its external environment, but ALSO (which so few folks = really appreciate) to changes that happen in the spring itself. These= are especially troublesome when one wants to look at earth motions that ar= e =E2=80=9Clow and slow=E2=80=9D.A capacitive sensor wi= th a large electric field between the plates (the parameter that ultimately= determines its threshold sensitivity) can measure down to 0.1 nm, even at = room temperature. This was the displacement threshold of the capaciti= ve sensor that I used as a student while at Oak Ridge National Laboratory i= n the late 1960=E2=80=99s. The sensor was one that operated on gap sp= acing change of parallel plates that had been polished optically flat to be= tter than a half-wavelength of visible light, and spaced nominally about 5 = micro-meters (microns) apart. Motion of one plate, relative to the ot= her, was due to 30 and 60 MHz longitudinally excited (pulse echo) ultrasoun= d waves in a single crystal. By measuring the 2nd ha= rmonic (relative to the fundamental), I could thus determine as a function = of temperature the =E2=80=9Celastic anharmonicity=E2=80=9D of copper (due t= o the 3rd order elastic constants) along each of the three princ= ipal axes. In recent years I have recognized the importance of = =E2=80=9Cdamping anharmonicity=E2=80=9D as well as the elastic anharmonicit= y that I studied as a student. I was greatly satisfied to have finall= y published something significant on this topic in the 10th edit= ion of the McGraw Hill Encyclopedia of Science and Technology. It has= gained acceptance by at least the chemistry community, as seen by th= e =E2=80=98Chem-wiki=E2=80=99 page online at http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Phys= ical_Chemistry/Quantum_Mechanics/Quantum_Theory/Trapped_Particles/Anharmoni= c_OscillatorIf you type into Goog= le the following keywords (without the tick marks causing a literal search)= :=E2=80=98anharmonic oscillator access science=E2=80= =9DYou should then be able to read the ful= l article by clicking on the 2nd link of the first page that get= s displayed.Even though my ultraso= nic system sensitivity was impressive at 0.1 nm, some Russians were able wi= th cryogenic electronics to do a hundred times better, approaching the size= of atomic nuclei. So thus I am confident that the ultimate resolutio= n of a seismograph does not derive from the limitations of a capacitive sen= sor. But don=E2=80=99t take my word for it. The great physicist= R. V. Jones (who died in the late 1990=E2=80=99s) is still quoted by the m= ost knowledgeable modern =E2=80=98artisans=E2=80=99 as the ultimate authori= ty on sensors of the type used in modern seismology. He noted that tw= o sensing types will (for reason of the physics used) outperform all others= ; they are (i) capacitive, and (ii) optical. The power of the latter = is finally beginning to be used by a small number of university research ty= pes, at least in California. Their optics approach is the same as use= d by the Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory (LIGO) people;= i.e., measure the displacement (not the velocity) by means of a Michelson = interferometer. Optical fibers allow such instruments to = be placed way below ground with minimal difficulties of the type otherwise = encountered.I have done enough with cap= acitive sensors over the last four decades to learn a few things through th= e =E2=80=98college of hard knocks=E2=80=99, in contrast with the work of my= degree from the University of Tennessee (involving the aforementioned ORNL= experience). It should come as no surprise to anybody with very much= electronics experience, that considerable benefit is gained (when possible= ) by operating capacitive sensors in a differential mode. The improve= ment in SNR, especially because of better common mode electronic rejection = can be dramatic. Also, if the electronics can be configured to involv= e phase sensitive detection, still more significant gains are possible.&nbs= p; My research that has impacted seismology most significantly involves the= fully differential capacitive sensor that I patented. I remain amaze= d at the level of resistance I experienced in trying to publish papers rela= ted to this patent. One of my papers was actually reviewed by R. V. J= ones (as was told me by editor Tom Braid of the Review of Scientific Instru= ments). Of my sensor, Jones stated that =E2=80=9Cthe device was twice= as sensitive as the conventional (half) differential capacitive types=E2= =80=9D (for equivalent sized electrode areas total), and he liked its symme= try, even though he was at that time =E2=80=9Ctoo old to take the time to d= o a detailed theoretical analysis of it=E2=80=9D.I have wr= itten all this to hopefully encourage more folks to =E2=80=98think outside = the box=E2=80=99 of conventional wisdom. One person who has done so w= ith some successes is Allan Coleman. A paper of his from several year= s ago is posted on my webpage atThe= capacitive sensor, unlike the Faraday Law (coil/magnet) velocity sensor of= a previous generation (World Wide Standard Seismograph Network--WWSSN) is = fundamentally a displacement sensor. I encourage you to look in the w= ritings of one of the world=E2=80=99s most highly respected seismologists (= Erhard Wielandt). He notes that the =E2=80=9Cmodern=E2=80=9D force ba= lance instrument (of type perfected by his =E2=80=98sidekick=E2=80=99 Gunar= Streckeisen, maker of the legendary STS instruments) was made to function = by means of force-feedback so as to behave like the earlier instruments (su= ch as the original form of the Sprengnether vertical that I own). I m= odified my Sprengnether to function more naturally as a displacement-measur= ing instrument, using my patented sensor. For those of you who are in= terested, there is a paper that I wrote about six years ago, titled =E2=80= =9CImproving seismometer performance at low frequencies using newly discove= red physics=E2=80=9D. It is online atAnyone interested in follow= ing Allan Coleman in the use of my sensor for seismic purposes, may want to= look first at a pedagogical description of how it works. This is loc= ated on the Tel-Atomic webpage at http://www.telatomic.com/mechanics/sensor= ..htmlThe Cavendish balance takes advantage, not only of e= lectronics common mode rejection, but also =E2=80=98mechanical common mode = rejection=E2=80=99 that eliminates the =E2=80=98curse worthy to students=E2= =80=99 pendulous swinging modes that made this classic experiment much more= difficult in the past. It may also be of interest to note that the h= eart of the electronics is the same AD7745 capacitance to digital converter= (Analog Devices) that is used by the VolksMeter that I created.Randall