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Subject: mesoanelastic complexity
From: Randall Peters PETERS_RD@..........
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:27:29 -0400


Brett,
      Thanks for the encouragement of your latest submission to the list-se=
rve.  I will be glad to exchange ideas with you on the matter of internal f=
riction that derives from defect structures in springs.  I could write a bo=
ok on the subject, but as you note-most of our readers would probably not w=
ant that degree of detail.  It's like my daughters, who in their student da=
ys used to say, "Dad we didn't want that much answer to the question".   I =
would nevertheless like to point out the following to everyone.  As a physi=
cist, I was trained (in characteristic fashion) to 'hit problems head-on'. =
 I have several times through the years been at gatherings (not involving m=
e directly) in which one might think that a 'knock-down drag out' fight was=
 about to erupt.  Actually, 'after the dust settled', those who had 'locked=
 horns' were once again engaged in friendly fashion, of the type that chara=
cterized their relationship before the head-banging.  It's just the modus o=
perandus in which we in my profession have practiced their trade for many g=
enerations.  Before some personal encounters in which my need for diplomacy=
 was demonstrated to be seriously deficient, I didn't appreciate how this p=
ractice is alien to most other disciplines, such as seismology.
     I also want to point out how much I have personally enjoyed and benefi=
tted as the recipient of feedback from you list-serve folks in general.  Th=
e most important recent example is that which resulted in the partnership I=
 enjoy with Larry Cochrane, involving the VolksMeter.  But recently Chuck B=
urch and Randy Pratt gave me practical help with the Hilbert transform-whic=
h I should have been exposed to years ago (since my undergraduate degree wa=
s in engineering)-but I had never heard about.  As the result of their reco=
mmendations, the Hilbert transform is now part of the Mathematica software =
that I use to generate frequency domain information, as part of the grant t=
hat I'm working with two medical colleagues (NIH support to do 3-axis seism=
ocardiography).  And finally I want to mention the friendship that I enjoy =
with Chris Chapman, who recommended to me the lecture that I gave on the pr=
esent subject, to the physics department at the University of Glasgow, seve=
ral years ago.  All of us are so glad, Chris, to see you back (almost now o=
n all 'cylinders') following your terrifying health crisis.  I never would =
have met Chris, and been hosted in fine manner by him there in England befo=
re going to Scotland-were it not for this group of 'rank amateurs'.  Moreov=
er, I would never have encountered your true greatness, that is impacting e=
ven the professional world-were it not for the recommendation given to me b=
y one of my physics department colleagues at Mercer University.  Years ago,=
 because of the resistance to my work (not just seismology, but also from s=
ome parts of physics), Matt Marone recommended that I begin to interact wit=
h folks like yourselves.
      These examples speak to the dramatic positive benefit that I have enj=
oyed, of doing 'honest to goodness' interdisciplinary research, as opposed =
to giving the concept 'lip service', as is so now widespread in academic ci=
rcles.  To do so, one must 'swallow the pride' that so often operates aroun=
d the 'not invented here syndrome'.
       One thing I have come painfully to recognize, "it's not so much what=
 you know, but who you know" when it comes to getting your ideas 'out there=
'.  I would have made little progress with my most important specialty, wer=
e it not for the internet.  If you type either 'nonlinear damping' or 'line=
ar damping' into Google (without the tick marks for a literal search), you =
will see that my publications on the subject are ranked very 'high' on the =
basis of web-visibility.  This derives in large measure from the influence =
of Clarence W. deSilva, Professor of Mechanical Engineering (faculty of App=
lied Science) at the University of British Columbia.  That he gave me 'cart=
e blanche' liberty to write two chapters on the subject for two of his now =
well known engineering reference books-was a source of great personal satis=
faction, for the following reason.  Clarence holds two PhD's, one in Mechan=
ical Engineering (Dynamic System Control) from MIT, and the other in Inform=
ation Engineering from the University of Cambridge in England.  Considering=
 the stature of both these institutions, I think his opinions on the subjec=
t are worthy of note.
        Then there is my invited article, titled "Friction at the mesoscale=
" that was published in Contemporary Physics (by Taylor and Francis, Ltd, L=
ondon).  This paper would never have been possible were it not for my chanc=
e meeting years ago at Texas Tech University, of one of the highly esteemed=
 leaders of the laser physics world (Peter Milonni).  More recently, Peter =
even assisted (me and a mechanical engineering Mercer faculty colleague, Lo=
ren Somner) in the better writing of a paper titled "Intuitive derivation o=
f Reynolds Number"  (a now popular to the internet paper that was deemed by=
 a referee as 'worthless').  I mention these matters because of the peculia=
r scientific place in which we find ourselves, here in the beginnings of th=
e 21st century.  One might think that new ideas are readily embraced, when =
in fact my experiences have been just the opposite.  My earliest encounters=
 with this unexpected trend occurred in the 1990's while at TTU, in trying =
to be promoted to the rank of Professor.  In my letter of denial, the Dean =
of our college wrote how "she hoped I would be eventually able to say I tol=
d you so"-concerning my research in mesodynamics.
       I am mystified by the resistance that I continue to meet in some cir=
cles.  I mention here just two examples, because of their present relevance=
 to the poor state of science education in this country.  A prominent figur=
e in the "International Pendulum Project", where I was an invited speaker w=
ith expenses paid (in Sydney in 2002) - once told me that it was his opinio=
n of science education in the U.S.  - that "it was beyond redemption".   I =
took to heart his comments, since this capable individual has traveled exte=
nsively in our country, and interacted with some of our best known educator=
s.   Of course my thinking on the matter has been also influenced by the re=
cent education fiasco in Atlanta (cheating scandal in general, not involvin=
g just science education)
     Recently, I worked with two physics majors at Mercer on a problem whic=
h is readily treated theoretically.   It ought to be well known to the scie=
nce and engineering community that the common expression for the tidal forc=
e is a first order approximation.  In fact, as we have demonstrated in our =
article titled "asymmetric tidal force", there is a 5% difference between t=
he zenith and nadir components of the crustal tide due to our Moon's influe=
nce on the earth.  For a closer satellite this difference between zenith an=
d nadir components can be dramatic.  I figured this paper would be readily =
published, but in fact it was summarily rejected by arxiv-my first occasion=
 to be treated by them in this manner.
      Then there was my paper that derived also from student interactions i=
n the classroom a year ago,  titled "inductor phasor subtlety" .  One would=
 think the subtleties of that paper would have been recognized decades ago-=
- for reason of the great attention given to the Steinmetz phasor by both t=
he physics world and the electrical engineering world.
      If you have read this far in my 'ramblings', then thanks for your pat=
ience with me.  And as I said at the start, Brett-I will be glad to talk wi=
th you about some specifics of your questions.  But I think we should do so=
 by means of email between the two of us-unless some others make known thei=
r great interest for us to do otherwise.  And most of all-Larry, I would li=
ke to know your thinking about the matter.  I don't want your list serve to=
 get immersed in 'politics' that have nothing to do with your mandate for e=
xistence.  If you prefer to make your wishes known, only by way of my Merce=
r email address, that will be fine.
     Thanks to all,

      Randall

Brett,

      Thanks for the enc= ouragement of your latest submission to the list-serve.  I will be gla= d to exchange ideas with you on the matter of internal friction that derive= s from defect structures in springs.  I could write a book on the subj= ect, but as you note—most of our readers would probably not want that= degree of detail.  It’s like my daughters, who in their student= days used to say, “Dad we didn’t want that much answer to the = question”.   I would nevertheless like to point out the fol= lowing to everyone.  As a physicist, I was trained (in characteristic = fashion) to ‘hit problems head-on’.  I have several times = through the years been at gatherings (not involving me directly) in which o= ne might think that a ‘knock-down drag out’ fight was about to = erupt.  Actually, ‘after the dust settled’, those who had = ‘locked horns’ were once again engaged in friendly fashion, of = the type that characterized their relationship before the head-banging.&nbs= p; It’s just the modus operandus in which we in my profession have pr= acticed their trade for many generations.  Before some personal encoun= ters in which my need for diplomacy was demonstrated to be seriously defici= ent, I didn’t appreciate how this practice is alien to most other dis= ciplines, such as seismology.  

&nb= sp;    I also want to point out how much I have persona= lly enjoyed and benefitted as the recipient of feedback from you list-serve= folks in general.  The most important recent example is that which re= sulted in the partnership I enjoy with Larry Cochrane, involving the VolksM= eter.  But recently Chuck Burch and Randy Pratt gave me practical help= with the Hilbert transform—which I should have been exposed to years= ago (since my undergraduate degree was in engineering)—but I had nev= er heard about.  As the result of their recommendations, the Hilbert t= ransform is now part of the Mathematica software that I use to generate fre= quency domain information, as part of the grant that I’m working with= two medical colleagues (NIH support to do 3-axis seismocardiography). = ; And finally I want to mention the friendship that I enjoy with Chris Chap= man, who recommended to me the lecture that I gave on the present subject, = to the physics department at the University of Glasgow, several years ago.&= nbsp; All of us are so glad, Chris, to see you back (almost now on all R= 16;cylinders’) following your terrifying health crisis.  I never= would have met Chris, and been hosted in fine manner by him there in Engla= nd before going to Scotland—were it not for this group of ‘rank= amateurs’.  Moreover, I would never have encountered your true = greatness, that is impacting even the professional world—were it not = for the recommendation given to me by one of my physics department colleagu= es at Mercer University.  Years ago, because of the resistance to my w= ork (not just seismology, but also from some parts of physics), Matt Marone= recommended that I begin to interact with folks like yourselves. 

      These = examples speak to the dramatic positive benefit that I have enjoyed, of doi= ng ‘honest to goodness’ interdisciplinary research, as opposed = to giving the concept ‘lip service’, as is so now widespread in= academic circles.  To do so, one must ‘swallow the pride’= that so often operates around the ‘not invented here syndrome’= ..

      &= nbsp;One thing I have come painfully to recognize, “it’s not so= much what you know, but who you know” when it comes to getting your = ideas ‘out there’.  I would have made little progress with= my most important specialty, were it not for the internet.  If you ty= pe either ‘nonlinear damping’ or ‘linear damping’ i= nto Google (without the tick marks for a literal search), you will see that= my publications on the subject are ranked very ‘high’ on the b= asis of web-visibility.  This derives in large measure from the influe= nce of Clarence W. deSilva, Professor of Mechanical Engineering (faculty of= Applied Science) at the University of British Columbia.  That he gave= me ‘carte blanche’ liberty to write two chapters on the subjec= t for two of his now well known engineering reference books—was a sou= rce of great personal satisfaction, for the following reason.  Clarenc= e holds two PhD’s, one in Mechanical Engineering (Dynamic System Cont= rol) from MIT, and the other in Information Engineering from the University= of Cambridge in England.  Considering the stature of both these insti= tutions, I think his opinions on the subject are worthy of note.

        T= hen there is my invited article, titled “Friction at the mesoscale= 221; that was published in Contemporary Physics (by Taylor and Francis, Ltd= , London).  This paper would never have been possible were it not for = my chance meeting years ago at Texas Tech University, of one of the highly = esteemed leaders of the laser physics world (Peter Milonni).  More rec= ently, Peter even assisted (me and a mechanical engineering Mercer faculty = colleague, Loren Somner) in the better writing of a paper titled “Int= uitive derivation of Reynolds Number”  (a now popular to the int= ernet paper that was deemed by a referee as ‘worthless’). = I mention these matters because of the peculiar scientific place in which = we find ourselves, here in the beginnings of the 21st century.&n= bsp; One might think that new ideas are readily embraced, when in fact my e= xperiences have been just the opposite.  My earliest encounters with t= his unexpected trend occurred in the 1990’s while at TTU, in trying t= o be promoted to the rank of Professor.  In my letter of denial, the D= ean of our college wrote how “she hoped I would be eventually able to= say I told you so”—concerning my research in mesodynamics.

       = I am mystified by the resistance that I continue to meet in some circles.&n= bsp; I mention here just two examples, because of their present relevance t= o the poor state of science education in this country.  A prominent fi= gure in the “International Pendulum Project”, where I was an in= vited speaker with expenses paid (in Sydney in 2002) – once told me t= hat it was his opinion of science education in the U.S.  – that = “it was beyond redemption”.   I took to heart his com= ments, since this capable individual has traveled extensively in our countr= y, and interacted with some of our best known educators.   Of cou= rse my thinking on the matter has been also influenced by the recent educat= ion fiasco in Atlanta (cheating scandal in general, not involving just scie= nce education)  

   =   Recently, I worked with two physics majors at Mercer on a probl= em which is readily treated theoretically.   It ought to be well = known to the science and engineering community that the common expression f= or the tidal force is a first order approximation.  In fact, as we hav= e demonstrated in our article titled “asymmetric tidal force”, = there is a 5% difference between the zenith and nadir components of the cru= stal tide due to our Moon’s influence on the earth.  For a close= r satellite this difference between zenith and nadir components can be dram= atic.  I figured this paper would be readily published, but in fact it= was summarily rejected by arxiv—my first occasion to be treated by t= hem in this manner. 

  &= nbsp;   Then there was my paper that derived also from stude= nt interactions in the classroom a year ago,  titled “inductor p= hasor subtlety” .  One would think the subtleties of that paper = would have been recognized decades ago-- for reason of the great attention = given to the Steinmetz phasor by both the physics world and the electrical = engineering world. 

  &n= bsp;   If you have read this far in my ‘ramblings̵= 7;, then thanks for your patience with me.  And as I said at the start= , Brett—I will be glad to talk with you about some specifics of your = questions.  But I think we should do so by means of email between the = two of us—unless some others make known their great interest for us t= o do otherwise.  And most of all—Larry, I would like to know you= r thinking about the matter.  I don’t want your list serve to ge= t immersed in ‘politics’ that have nothing to do with your mand= ate for existence.  If you prefer to make your wishes known, only by w= ay of my Mercer email address, that will be fine. 

     Thanks to all,

 

  = ;    Randall

=

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