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Subject: Re: Damping Resistor
From: Bob McClure bobmcclure90@.........
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 13:32:44 -0500


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On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:18 PM, Geoffrey  wrote:

>
> The trouble with these government pubs is that
> I do not have a decent reader for their
> file types.
> I will never understand why they don't use rich text files
> or simply html or plain 7 bit text.
> Something more universal than a snobby DOC file
> which takes too much space on your machine
> or cost too much money for the software to read it.
> I do not like to MS stuff because they are too
> involved when it comes to installing the software.
> They almost always use special software
> to make their documents.
> I guess Ill stop crying now.
>
> Regards,
> geoff
>
>
> On 2/6/2012 5:39 AM, Stephen Hammond wrote:
> > Hi Geoff, I get the impression you are looking for a simple answer to a
> > complex problem. Here is a simple answer: I use three HS10 geophones on
> my
> > system and based on word of mouth input I received from a USGS tech in
> 1990
> > he told me to start with two  500 ohm resisters in a t-pad arrangement
> just
> > to get started and work up until I got the output I desired. That said,
> > Chris is right-- you will need the specs from the manufacture if you
> want to
> > setup your geophones with any kind of precision . Here are two links,
> one to
> > a USGS report describing setting the damping values for the S and T
> > resisters in a t-pad style damping  (one resister across the coil output
> and
> > one resister in series between the coil output and one of the inputs to
> the
> > filter/amp).  Here is a link to a USGS paper and calibration results for
> > their sensors. http://geopubs.wr.usgs.gov/open-file/of99-434/
> >
> > Here is the link to the Stanford Geo lab calibration procedure for the
> L4C
> > geophone.
> http://www-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu/lcls/technotes/lcls-tn-03-6.pdf
> >
> >
> >
> > I hope this helps, Regards Steve Hammond PSN San Jose, Aptos, CA.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: psnlist-request@.............. [mailto:
> psnlist-request@...............
> > On Behalf Of chrisatupw@.......
> > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 4:42 PM
> > To: psnlist@..............
> > Subject: Re: Damping Resistor
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject: Damping Resistor
> >
> > Is anyone able to comment on this expression
> > to get a value for the damping resistor ?
> > .
> > Hi Geoff,
> >     Most geophones use a copper coil former, which also forms part of
> > the mass. Since this is moving in the magnetic field, damping currents
> > are induced in it, giving maybe 0.4 critical damping. I think that your
> > formula relates to a system with no inherent damping. The manufacturers
> > supply response curves for a range of damping resistors.
> >     Regards,
> >     Chris
> >
>
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On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at= 1:18 PM, Geoffrey <gmvoeth@...........> wrote:

The trouble with these government pubs is that
I do not have a decent reader for their
file types.
I will never understand why they don't use rich text files
or simply html or plain 7 bit text.
Something more universal than a snobby DOC file
which takes too much space on your machine
or cost too much money for the software to read it.
I do not like to MS stuff because they are too
involved when it comes to installing the software.
They almost always use special software
to make their documents.
I guess Ill stop crying now.

Regards,
geoff


On 2/6/2012 5:39 AM, Stephen Hammond wrote:
> Hi Geoff, I get the impression you are looking for a simple answer to = a
> complex problem. Here is a simple answer: I use three HS10 geophones o= n my
> system and based on word of mouth input I received from a USGS tech in= 1990
> he told me to start with two =C2=A0500 ohm resisters in a t-pad arrang= ement just
> to get started and work up until I got the output I desired. That said= ,
> Chris is right-- you will need the specs from the manufacture if you w= ant to
> setup your geophones with any kind of precision . Here are two links, = one to
> a USGS report describing setting the damping values for the S and T > resisters in a t-pad style damping =C2=A0(one resister across the coil= output and
> one resister in series between the coil output and one of the inputs t= o the
> filter/amp). =C2=A0Here is a link to a USGS paper and calibration resu= lts for
> their sensors. http://geopubs.wr.usgs.gov/open-file/of99-434/ >
> Here is the link to the Stanford Geo lab calibration procedure for the= L4C
> geophone. http://www-ssrl.slac.stanford.edu/lcls/= technotes/lcls-tn-03-6.pdf
>
>
>
> I hope this helps, Regards Steve Hammond PSN San Jose, Aptos, CA.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: psnlist-reques= t@.............. [mailto:psnlist-request@..............]
> On Behalf Of chrisatupw@.......<= /a>
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 4:42 PM
> To:
psnlist@..............
> Subject: Re: Damping Resistor
>
>
>
> Subject: Damping Resistor
>
> Is anyone able to comment on this expression
> to get a value for the damping resistor ?
> .
> Hi Geoff,
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Most geophones use a copper coil former, which also form= s part of
> the mass. Since this is moving in the magnetic field, damping currents=
> are induced in it, giving maybe 0.4 critical damping. I think that you= r
> formula relates to a system with no inherent damping. The manufacturer= s
> supply response curves for a range of damping resistors.
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Regards,
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Chris
>

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