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Subject: Re: Robert's circuit and new WinQuake / WinSDR releases
From: Thomas Dick dickthomas01@.............
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:01:12 -0600
On 2/7/2012 12:11 AM, Larry Cochrane wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Last year I incorporated Bob McClure's inverse filter into WinQuake
> and WinSDR. See
> http://sites.google.com/site/bobmcclure90/inversefilter for more
> information on Bob's filter. You can try the filter in WinQuake if you
> install this beta release:
>
> 32-Bit: http://www.seismicnet.com/software/wq323b_32bit.exe
> 64-Bit: http://www.seismicnet.com/software/wq323b_64bit.exe
>
> And if you have a PSN ADC board you can use the filter in real-time by
> using the current WinSDR beta release available here:
> http://www.seismicnet.com/winsdr/winsdr4x.html.
>
> Please Note! In WinQuake the pendulum frequency is entered in seconds
> so a 4.5 Hz geophone would be entered as 0.222. In WinSDR the
> frequency is entered in Hertz, so a 20 second Lehman would be entered
> as .05. I should normalize this, I'm just not sure if I should change
> WinQuake or WinSDR...
>
> In WinQuake the inverse filter can be found in the Time-Domain Filter
> dialog box and in WinSDR the Channel Settings -> Integrate / Filter
> tab dialog box.
>
> A few days ago there were some emails on the list regarding what
> numbers to use for the pendulum frequency and high-pass filter. The
> pendulum frequency is the undamped period of your sensor. If you have
> a geophone this would normally be 4.5 Hz (WinSDR, .222 in WinQuake) or
> maybe 1 if you gave a 1 Hz geophone or AS1 type of sensor. This number
> sets where the filter starts to boost the lower frequencies to
> compensate for the drop off of sensitivity below the period of the
> sensor. The high-pass filter sets how much you want to extend the
> period of the sensor. It should be set to some number below the period
> of the sensor. Depending on the sensor and electronics, mainly the
> first op-amp, you might be able to extend the period by one decade.
>
> Before adding the software filter to WinSDR and WinQuake I played
> around with the Robert's circuit. My results regarding using this
> filter, both in hardware and software, can be found here:
> http://www.seismicnet.com/epf/
>
> Below is some information on the event files on my system that use
> this filter in WinSDR:
>
> *.LCSV1.psn - This is a volume set from a Kinemetrics SV-1 5-Second
> intermediate-period vertical sensor. The LCZS1 channel is the raw data
> from the sensor. The LCZS2 channel has been period expended to 25
> seconds (.04Hz) and then a 2 pole 2 Hz low-pass filter is applied to
> the data. This helicoder plot (updated every 5 min)
> http://www.seismicnet.com/quakes/images/lczs2.png shows the 24 hour
> graph from this channel. Teleseismic events show up much better on the
> inverse filter channel then the raw data channel.
>
> *.LC45v.psn - This is a volume set from a horizontal 4.5 Hz geophone.
> The LCEG1 channel is the raw data from the sensor and the LCEG2
> channel has been period extended to 5 seconds or .2 Hz. This PSN event
> file
> http://www.seismicnet.com/quakes/1201/120126.021845.lc45v.psn is a
> good example of an earthquake recorded from this sensor.
>
> I would like to thank Bob McClure for supplying the Visual Basic code
> so I could add this feature to my programs.
>
> Regards,
> Larry Cochrane
> Webtronics
>
> On 2/6/2012 5:20 PM, Len Polucci wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>> reading your response to David regarding Geoffreys inquiry about a
>> damping resistor,
>> you say that the Roberts circuit will lower the frequency response x
>> 10 but I thought
>> I read it was x 4 or 5 for a geophone? Do you know of ANY other 'bass
>> boost' analog
>> seismo amp? I do have Mariotti's EQ PCB unassembled,but I am
>> wondering what it will
>> do for an SP instrument with a natural period of 5 sec. Will it give
>> me 25 sec. or 50
>> possibly?*/
>> /*
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It is certainly a step up, Larry and Bob. It allows new areas of
display. But how do I access epf files!
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