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Subject: Re: SPREGNETHER HORIZONAL SEISMOMETER
From: "JAMES C ALLEN" jcallen1@...........
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2012 11:04:12 -0700


Hello Barry, that is a really great looking hinge setup in your picture. =
 How did it work and what held the wires into the other hinge pieces.  =
Was it on a Lehman seismometer?  Sure looks interesting.
Jim Allen

From: Barry Lotz=20
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:00 PM
To: psnlist@.................
Subject: Re: SPREGNETHER HORIZONAL SEISMOMETER

James
Years ago I tried to build one using an isometric drawing and STM's =
electronics. It worked well but not consistantly. I build the hinge =
using a music wire in a dumb bell fashion. I have to look at in storage =
to see how I made it. Here is a photo I took "back when". The sensor =
mass was not to large so the tension on the wire may not be as high as =
yours.  http://www.seismicvault.com/sitebuilder/images/HINGE_12H.jpg
I'll find out what I did and get back to you.


Regards
Barry
www.seismicvault.com





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From: JAMES C ALLEN 
To: psnlist@..............
Sent: Thu, April 5, 2012 9:08:03 AM
Subject: Re: SPREGNETHER HORIZONAL SEISMOMETER


Thanks Bob, Randy and Robert regarding ideas/ suggestions regarding =
making the Spregnether hinge.  I will explore some of the options =
suggested to try and have the brass drilled by one of the type of shops =
referenced that have the skill and equipment.
Again, thanks for your ideas
James Allen=20

From: Robert Thomasson=20
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 4:43 AM
To: psnlist@.................
Subject: Re: SPREGNETHER HORIZONAL SEISMOMETER

James, not sure how you're trying to do the drilling, for holes that =
small you need a small precision drill press with an accurate chuck.  It =
would probably take more skill than I have to do it with a hand held =
drill.  My first thoughts are to try and find a real jeweler or =
silversmith or gunsmith, they may have the equipment to drill similar =
holes.  Or possibly an electronics assembly shop that does printed =
circuit board work.  It wouldn't hurt to call machine shops and ask, but =
most of them around here are more geared toward drilling 12" diameter =
holes.

Dremel sells a small drill press accessory for their variable speed Moto =
Tools that might work.  I think you'd need to use a slow speed.  You'd =
still need to devise an accurate method of holding the brass pieces =
while drilling and if it doesn't work and you don't have other uses for =
the drill press you're out $100+. =20

Bob



On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:45 PM, JAMES C ALLEN  =
wrote:

  I know that this is a long shot, but does anyone have parts for an old =
Spregnether horizontal seismometer?  Specifically the lower wire hinge.  =
The piece is a short wire with a round brass fitting at each end.  I =
tried to make it myself using piano wire and round brass stock.  But =
drilling the round brass stock to insert the wire into has been fraught =
with failure thus far since the very small drill bits I purchased at the =
hobby shop keep breaking,  Also, any advice on drilling an approximately =
..030 diameter hole in round brass stock would also be appreciated.  Do =
machine shops do this kind of work?
  James Allen





Hello Barry, that is a really great looking hinge setup in your=20 picture.  How did it work and what held the wires into the other = hinge=20 pieces.  Was it on a Lehman seismometer?  Sure looks=20 interesting.
Jim Allen
 
From: Barry Lotz
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: SPREGNETHER HORIZONAL = SEISMOMETER
 
James
Years=20 ago I tried to build one using an isometric drawing and STM's = electronics. It=20 worked well but not consistantly. I build the hinge using a music wire = in a dumb=20 bell fashion. I have to look at in storage to see how I made it. Here is = a photo=20 I took "back when". The sensor mass was not to large so the tension on = the wire=20 may not be as high as yours.  http://www.seismicvault.com/sitebuilder/images/HINGE_12H.= jpg
I'll=20 find out what I did and get back to you.
 
Regards
Barry
www.seismicvault.com

 
 

From: JAMES C ALLEN=20 <jcallen1@...........>
To: = psnlist@..............
Sent: Thu, April 5, 2012 9:08:03=20 AM
Subject: Re: = SPREGNETHER=20 HORIZONAL SEISMOMETER

Thanks Bob, Randy and Robert regarding ideas/ suggestions regarding = making=20 the Spregnether hinge.  I will explore some of the options = suggested to try=20 and have the brass drilled by one of the type of shops referenced that = have the=20 skill and equipment.
Again, thanks for your ideas
James Allen
 
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: SPREGNETHER HORIZONAL = SEISMOMETER
 
James,=20 not sure how you're trying to do the drilling, for holes that small you = need a=20 small precision drill press with an accurate chuck.  It would = probably take=20 more skill than I have to do it with a hand held drill.  My first = thoughts=20 are to try and find a real jeweler or silversmith or gunsmith, they may = have the=20 equipment to drill similar holes.  Or possibly an electronics = assembly shop=20 that does printed circuit board work.  It wouldn't hurt to call = machine=20 shops and ask, but most of them around here are more geared toward = drilling 12"=20 diameter holes.

Dremel sells a small drill press accessory for = their=20 variable speed Moto Tools that might work.  I think you'd need to = use a=20 slow speed.  You'd still need to devise an accurate method of = holding the=20 brass pieces while drilling and if it doesn't work and you don't have = other uses=20 for the drill press you're out $100+. 

Bob


On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:45 PM, JAMES C ALLEN = <jcallen1@...........>=20 wrote:
I know that this is a long shot, but does anyone have parts for = an old=20 Spregnether horizontal seismometer?  Specifically the lower wire=20 hinge.  The piece is a short wire with a round brass fitting at = each=20 end.  I tried to make it myself using piano wire and round brass=20 stock.  But drilling the round brass stock to insert the wire = into has=20 been fraught with failure thus far since the very small drill bits I = purchased=20 at the hobby shop keep breaking,  Also, any advice on drilling an = approximately .030 diameter hole in round brass stock would also be=20 appreciated.  Do machine shops do this kind of work?
James Allen
 
 

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