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Subject: Re: Haunted system misbehaving again
From: Larry Conklin lconklin@............
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:37:53 -0400


Hi Randy,

Well, at times I've been led to believe that the heating/air 
conditioning might be the source of the problem.  But when I take a 
closer look, there is no correlation at all.  I live in a typical 
suburban neighborhood, and I can definitely see a daily cycle of noise 
that correlates with the traffic on a nearby busy street.  But nothing I 
can identify correlates with the occurrence and eventual subsidence of 
the noise episodes.

I definitely do see seasonal variations that effect the need for 
re-leveling the system. Especially in the spring and fall when the 
ground freezes and thaws.  I don't believe the water table is a 
significant issue in my location.

I also can see a daily cycle in the leveling of the sensor.  I have a 
spare channel of my A/D converter connected to the leveling test point 
on the circuit board.  I display the voltage, updated at 30 second 
intervals, on a readout in my data logger display.  Gives me a way to 
monitor the status of the system and get a heads up when the tilt is 
starting to get out of the acceptable range.  I record the voltage in a 
"pseudo-PSN" file and can track the long term drift, on which is 
superimposed a sort of daily sawtooth pattern that I take to be the 
consequence of solar heating on the house or surrounding ground.  
Interesting, but not related to my noise problem in any way that I can 
fathom.

Larry


On 6/20/2012 11:19 AM, Randall Pratt wrote:
>
> Larry,
>
> Is there a vibration source that could alias to low freq?  If the 
> loose leveling screw increased the effect then maybe that indicates a 
> location input.
>
> A second thought is your water table or frost level. In my case the 
> ground water level comes up to or above my basement floor most spring 
> seasons when the ground thaws.  I seem to get increased transmission 
> of traffic noise when the ground is saturated.  When I operated my 
> Lehman I had large tilts during freezing, thawing and ground water 
> changes.
>
> Randy
>



  
    
  
  
    Hi Randy,

Well, at times I've been led to believe that the heating/air conditioning might be the source of the problem.  But when I take a closer look, there is no correlation at all.  I live in a typical suburban neighborhood, and I can definitely see a daily cycle of noise that correlates with the traffic on a nearby busy street.  But nothing I can identify correlates with the occurrence and eventual subsidence of the noise episodes.

I definitely do see seasonal variations that effect the need for re-leveling the system. Especially in the spring and fall when the ground freezes and thaws.  I don't believe the water table is a significant issue in my location.

I also can see a daily cycle in the leveling of the sensor.  I have a spare channel of my A/D converter connected to the leveling test point on the circuit board.  I display the voltage, updated at 30 second intervals, on a readout in my data logger display.  Gives me a way to monitor the status of the system and get a heads up when the tilt is starting to get out of the acceptable range.  I record the voltage in a "pseudo-PSN" file and can track the long term drift, on which is superimposed a sort of daily sawtooth pattern that I take to be the consequence of solar heating on the house or surrounding ground.  Interesting, but not related to my noise problem in any way that I can fathom.

Larry


On 6/20/2012 11:19 AM, Randall Pratt wrote:

Larry,

 

Is there a vibration source that could alias to low freq?  If the loose leveling screw increased the effect then maybe that indicates a location input. 

 

A second thought is your water table or frost level.  In my case the ground water level comes up to or above my basement floor most spring seasons when the ground thaws.  I seem to get increased transmission of traffic noise when the ground is saturated.  When I operated my Lehman I had large tilts during freezing, thawing and ground water changes.

 

Randy

 




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