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Subject: Re: diamagnetic levitation seismometer possibility
From: "Dave Nelson" davefnelson@.......
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 22:55:11 -0000



The number of possible seismic instrument configurations which will =
provide some response  to seismic motions is vast. The question is the =
practicality/utility of a given configuration.

The key figure of merit for any instrument configuration  is the =
instrument self noise and response as a function of frequency. This =
directly determines the minimum seismic motion the instrument is capable =
of detecting and then providing useful data for analysis.

If one is willing to wait for that rare magnitude 7 or 8 event the =
simplest / noisiest instrument may do the job in some contexts, such as =
classroom demonstrations .=20

The amateur astronomer community has evolved to the point where it =
provides useful  ( if not essential)  information to the astronomy =
scientific community. I believe the amateur seismology community could =
do a similar service but not with inadequate instrumentation.=20

 The goal should be to develop amateur instruments with characteristics =
near the performance of professional instruments and then operating  =
them in reasonably low noise sites. (An instrument in a residential =
basement  will work reassembly well if carefully done.)=20

Larry Cochrane has  already provided us with  excellent equipment to =
handle the sensor data and connect it to a network. Some work needs to =
be done in this area but we have a good start.

My challenge is to include instrument self noise and generator constant, =
both as a function of frequency, as a FIRST PRIORITY when evaluating  =
the utility of an instrument concept.=20

Just another gadget that will respond if you shake it is not where we =
want to spend our efforts and resources.

I do  NOT  mean to imply there are not some truly innovative and =
possibly revolutionary ideas out there but we should  look at each of =
them  carefully to determine early whether they justify significant =
effort or belong in the "that was interesting" stack. =20

Just where determination is made is a personal choice but it should be =
based on some form of analysis and/or test.

Comments Please.=20

Dave Nelson
Rolling Hills Estates, California






 
The number of = possible seismic=20 instrument configurations which will provide some response  to = seismic=20 motions is vast. The question is the practicality/utility of a given=20 configuration.
 
The key figure of = merit for=20 any instrument configuration  is the instrument self noise and = response as=20 a function of frequency. This directly determines the minimum seismic = motion the=20 instrument is capable of detecting and then providing useful data for=20 analysis.
 
If one is willing to = wait for=20 that rare magnitude 7 or 8 event the simplest / noisiest instrument may = do the=20 job in some contexts, such as classroom demonstrations .=20
 
The amateur = astronomer community=20 has evolved to the point where it provides useful  ( if not=20 essential)  information to the astronomy scientific community. I = believe=20 the amateur seismology community could do a similar service but not with = inadequate instrumentation.
 
 The goal = should be to=20 develop amateur instruments with characteristics near the performance of professional instruments and then = operating  them=20 in reasonably low noise sites. (An instrument in a residential basement=20  will work reassembly well if carefully done.)
 
Larry Cochrane has=20  already provided us with  excellent equipment to = handle the=20 sensor data and connect it to a network. Some work needs to be done in = this area=20 but we have a good start.
 
My=20 challenge is to include instrument self noise and generator constant, = both as a=20 function of frequency, as a FIRST PRIORITY when evaluating  the = utility of=20 an instrument concept.
 
Just another gadget = that will=20 respond if you shake it is not where we want to spend our efforts = and=20 resources.
 
I do =  NOT  mean=20 to imply there are not some truly innovative and possibly = revolutionary=20 ideas out there but we should  look at each of them  carefully = to=20 determine early whether they justify significant effort or belong in the = "that=20 was interesting" stack. 
 
Just where = determination is=20 made is a personal choice but it should be based on some form of = analysis=20 and/or test.
 
Comments Please. =
 
Dave = Nelson
Rolling Hills = Estates,=20 California
 
 

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