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Subject: Re: Period extensions in WinSDR
From: chrisatupw@.......
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:50:54 -0500 (EST)





From: J=C3=B3n Fr=C3=ADmann 

To: psnlist 
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:13
Subject: Period extensions in WinSDR


Hello all,

How is it best to use the period extensions in WinSDR with a 4.5Hz
geophone? I am currently testing it on my Bov geophone station.


Hi J=C3=B3n,=20

    You set the extension period to x10 maximum. You need to have quite a h=
igh noise amplitude signal.=20
The signal amplitude at 0.5 Hz is a factor of 100 down on the signal at 4.5=
 Hz, so you need say +/-5 counts,=20
minimum at 0.5 Hz to be able to reconstruct the full signal. The full signa=
l noise amplitude will likely be several=20
hundred counts. Check the relative amplitudes of the P and S waves. Can you=
 get an actual data trace of a=20
broad band signal to compare the true relative amplitudes of a few quake si=
gnals of widely differing overall=20
amplitudes ? One problem with digital reconstruction of the signal is noise=
 - the other one is the step size of=20
digitiser. If there is no signal there, or only noise, what you see will no=
t be a true signal. This is the=20
disadvantage of using numerical reconstruction as opposed to a low frequenc=
y 'bass boost' 1/f^2 type of=20
compensating amplifier.=20

    Regards,=20

    Chris Chapman=20

=20
=20
=20
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From: J=C3=B3n Fr=C3=ADmann= <jonfr@.........>
To: psnlist <psnlist@..............>
Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:13
Subject: Period extensions in WinSDR

Hello all,

How is it best to use the period extensions in WinSDR with a 4.5Hz
geophone? I am currently testing it on my Bov geophone station.


Hi J=C3=B3n, 
You set the extension period to x10 maximum. Yo= u need to have quite a high noise amplitude signal.
The signal amplitude at 0.= 5 Hz is a factor of 100 down on the signal at 4.5 Hz, so you need say +/-5 = counts,
minimum at 0.5 Hz to be able to reconstruct the full signal. The full signa= l noise amplitude will likely be several
hundred counts. Check the relative amplitudes of the P and S waves. Can you= get an actual data trace of a
broad band signal to compare the true relative amplitudes of a few quake si= gnals of widely differing overall
amplitudes ? One problem with digital reconstruction of the signal is noise= - the other one is the step size of
digitiser. If there is no signal there, or only noise, what you see will no= t be a true signal. This is the
disadvantage of using numerical reconstruction as opposed to a low frequenc= y 'bass boost' 1/f^2 type of
compensating amplifier.

Regards,

Chris Chapman

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