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Subject: Re: Southern Illinois quake not a quake
From: Thomas Dick dickthomas01@.............
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 12:01:23 -0600
*Geoff and the Network, I apologize for getting doped. The reference
below is a hoax. If you Google the coordinates for this quake there is
nothing like what is pictured in the article in that area, AND the quake
appears to be directly on the Cottage Grove fault. *
>> http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/1102013-illinois-2-9m-earthquake-at-gas-pumping-pad-9-miles-deep/
>>
>> I suspect this is a gas line underground storage area
*As long as 40 years ago, Vectren was storing natural gas in southern
Illinois in deep wells*
> QUAKES:
> How is it you can say it is not a quake ? Can't the cause mechanism of
> a quake be human ? Can't the cause mechanism of a quake be human ?
*If you look at this site
(*http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/recenteqs/Quakes/quakes0.html*) there
is a list of 47 earthquakes since the 16th of December. I have followed
this list for years. They rate each "earthquake" -- see quality when you
double click on the specific quake. Of the 47 currently shown (since Dec
16) this AM, 17 are rated fair to poor. Most of these 17 are in areas
where oil wells are being drilled using the latest techniques. Using
Google you can frequently find the construction equipment on the site.
(Remember, the surface error; you take 10% of the depth (focus) and
using the stated epicenter go out that distance in all directions ---
you will usually find an active construction site. But not all can be
explained/blamed on drilling, however, I used the term, man-made for
those I suspected as being caused by drilling. **They lack some of the
anticipated wave forms*
*Yes BUT! Not all. The last 2 yrs, the Midwest has experienced very dry
weather.* *My lake was down over three feet.* *This is true over all
the lower Mississippi River and Ohio River watersheds (and even into
western Missouri). In addition, many more farmers are irrigating their
crops these days. That is taking water out of the ground. My thinking is
that this reduced weight of water over the area allows crustal flexing.
Maybe not real earthquakes but movement and an explanation for the lower
quality rating.*
> I understand that a meteor impact in the middle
> of a river in Eastern Canada is still having quakes
> a very long time after the meteor impacted,
> like a millon or more years ago.
>
*I don't know about a meteor impact you mention, but a theory about
some of the earthquakes around the Great Lakes was explained away years
ago by the retreating of the Niagara Falls which reduced the volume of
water retained in the lakes and lowered the pressure on the crust.
Others explain the quakes up there on changes in rainfall in that
watershed which seems more varied lately. Also within the passed 2 yrs
the Ohio Geological Survey stopped the pumping of petroleum wastes (in
the Cleveland area) into wells near the shore because of earthquakes in
that area.
*
> **
> METEORS:
> I just found out not long ago that Chesapeake VA
> has the Bay Bridge tunnel running right over the middle
> of a big impact, I have ridden over that with no idea
> we were passing over a large Crater. Which
> makes Winslow Crater in AZ look puny by comparison.
> It seems the earth was shattered all around
> mixing fresh water and saltwater.
> But meteors are something different than EQs ??
> Has anyone ever found bones of dead animals
> killed by the Winslow Impact ?
> Id think Whole herds of whatever were exterminated ?
> That wasn't so long ago in geological terms.
> *Geoff, I don't know about the East coast meteor you mention but there
> has been significant minor earthquake activity in the last few years
> along the Ramapo fault that runs from northern New York State down
> through West Virginia; AND there is fracking going on there.* *Records
> show (Gad, I wish I had documented every source of material I had read
> like Chris has ... I really envy his bibliograpy --- these statments
> sound fictional) that well drilling occurred with 20 miles of the
> Washington Monument*.
*Let me say a few last remarks. I saw the extensive pipelines in the
Arkansas area. They cost money. A whole lot of something that makes
money is coming out of the ground. Just how much of something, and what,
is going back into the ground? And will that something stay where they
put it? And what about these waste products injected in the bedrock
where the oil came out of; can we assume that there is no possibility
that chemical reactions at these depths won't change the composition,
density and/or stability of the area? What about other areas where the
waste products (radioactive materials, CO2, useless acid products and
etc) are being pumped into the ground? Who controls the research monies
to insure all these activities are safe?
Finally, let me return to the Illinois quake briefly. It was too deep to
be caused by man many will argue. Maybe. Particularly, if you discount
the possibility of movement through bedrock layers and vertically along
cracks in the bedrock (down as well as up). If you check this
earthquake's quality rating, it is only "good" not excellent as most of
the "real" quakes in this area. I jumped to the conclusion when I saw
the fictitious pictures of drill construction that this was a case of
the drilling being done too close to the fault and lubrication of the
fault surface had occurred. This is possibly an explanation for the
quakes in Arkansas and Oklahoma, but not this case; anyway, I was
wrong! I'll get out of this scientific issue and go read my paper book
romance novels! No, too old, my heart can't take that!
* *Tom Dick*
Geoff and the Network, I apologize for
getting doped. The reference below is a hoax. If you Google the
coordinates for this quake there is nothing like what is
pictured in the article in that area, AND the quake appears to
be directly on the Cottage Grove fault.
http://sincedutch.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/1102013-illinois-2-9m-earthquake-at-gas-pumping-pad-9-miles-deep/
I suspect this is a gas line underground
storage area
As long as 40 years ago, Vectren was
storing natural gas in southern Illinois in deep wells
QUAKES:
How is it you can say it is not a quake ?
Can't the cause mechanism of a quake be human ?
Can't the cause mechanism of a quake be human ?
If you look at this site (http://folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu/recenteqs/Quakes/quakes0.html) there is a list of 47 earthquakes since the
16th of December. I have followed this list for years. They rate
each "earthquake" -- see quality when you double click on the
specific quake. Of the 47 currently shown (since Dec 16) this
AM, 17 are rated fair to poor. Most of these 17 are in areas
where oil wells are being drilled using the latest techniques.
Using Google you can frequently find the construction equipment
on the site. (Remember, the surface error; you take 10% of the
depth (focus) and using the stated epicenter go out that
distance in all directions --- you will usually find an active
construction site. But not all can be explained/blamed on
drilling, however, I used the term, man-made for those I
suspected as being caused by drilling. They lack some of the anticipated wave forms
Yes BUT! Not all. The last 2 yrs, the
Midwest has experienced very dry weather. My lake was down over three feet. This is true over all the lower Mississippi
River and Ohio River watersheds (and even into western Missouri).
In addition, many more farmers are irrigating their crops these
days. That is taking water out of the ground. My thinking is
that this reduced weight of water over the area allows crustal
flexing. Maybe not real earthquakes but movement and an
explanation for the lower quality rating.
I
understand that a meteor impact in the middle
of a river in Eastern Canada is still having quakes
a very long time after the meteor impacted,
like a millon or more years ago.
I don't know about a meteor impact you
mention, but a theory about some of the earthquakes around the
Great Lakes was explained away years ago by the retreating of
the Niagara Falls which reduced the volume of water retained in
the lakes and lowered the pressure on the crust. Others explain
the quakes up there on changes in rainfall in that watershed
which seems more varied lately. Also within the passed 2 yrs the
Ohio Geological Survey stopped the pumping of petroleum wastes
(in the Cleveland area) into wells near the shore because of
earthquakes in that area.
METEORS:
I just found out not long ago that Chesapeake VA
has the Bay Bridge tunnel running right over the middle
of a big impact, I have ridden over that with no idea
we were passing over a large Crater. Which
makes Winslow Crater in AZ look puny by comparison.
It seems the earth was shattered all around
mixing fresh water and saltwater.
But meteors are something different than EQs ??
Has anyone ever found bones of dead animals
killed by the Winslow Impact ?
Id think Whole herds of whatever were exterminated ?
That wasn't so long ago in geological terms.
Geoff, I don't know about the East coast
meteor you mention but there has been significant minor
earthquake activity in the last few years along the Ramapo
fault that runs from northern New York State down through West
Virginia; AND there is fracking going on there. Records show (Gad, I wish I had documented
every source of material I had read like Chris has ... I
really envy his bibliograpy --- these statments sound fictional)
that well drilling occurred with 20 miles of the Washington
Monument.
Let me say a few last remarks. I saw the
extensive pipelines in the Arkansas area. They cost money. A
whole lot of something that makes money is coming out of the
ground. Just how much of something, and what, is going back into
the ground? And will that something stay where they put it? And
what about these waste products injected in the bedrock where
the oil came out of; can we assume that there is no possibility
that chemical reactions at these depths won't change the
composition, density and/or stability of the area? What about
other areas where the waste products (radioactive materials,
CO2, useless acid products and etc) are being pumped into the
ground? Who controls the research monies to insure all these
activities are safe?
Finally, let me return to the Illinois quake briefly. It was too
deep to be caused by man many will argue. Maybe. Particularly,
if you discount the possibility of movement through bedrock
layers and vertically along cracks in the bedrock (down as well
as up). If you check this earthquake's quality rating, it is
only "good" not excellent as most of the "real" quakes in this
area. I jumped to the conclusion when I saw the fictitious
pictures of drill construction that this was a case of the
drilling being done too close to the fault and lubrication of
the fault surface had occurred. This is possibly an explanation
for the quakes in Arkansas and Oklahoma, but not this case;
anyway, I was wrong! I'll get out of this scientific issue and
go read my paper book romance novels! No, too old, my heart
can't take that!
Tom Dick
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