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Subject: Re: LQ LR Time Travel Tables
From: Bob Hancock raptor@.......
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:00:57 -0700
Hi Tiago -
One other comment on the LQ LR predicted arrival times.
The biggest problem is that the LQ & LR waves are surface waves and =
travel within the crust. There is wide variability in the makeup and =
thickness of the crust (oceanic or continental) and the differences =
significantly affect predicted wave arrival times. This is more =
noticeable as the distance between the event and the receiving station =
increases, and whether or not the waves pass through continental and/or =
oceanic crust. While there are travel times curves for surface waves, =
the wide variability in the makeup of the crust restricts the ability to =
accurately predict their arrival times. WinQuake is a great program and =
Larry has done a fantastic job with the program. The arrival times for =
body waves is accurate and usually within a second or two of the times =
obtained from both the SAC and TauP Tool Kit programs. =20
The arrival times of Body waves, which are either refracted and or =
reflected by various layers below the crust have accurate arrival times =
which can be displayed by several programs including WinQuake, USGS, =
SAC, and the TauP Tool Kit.
NOTE - Neither SAC or TauP Tool Kit programs (used by seismologists) =
display predicted surface wave arrival times. Both WinQuake and the =
USGS display predicted surface wave arrival times, but I have observed =
differences in their predicted surface wave arrival times, and the =
actual arrival times observed on seismograms. =20
Bob Hancock
=20
On Mar 27, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Tiago A. wrote:
> Hi.
>=20
> I=B4ve been developing a online "Interactive Time Travel" for some =
time, P and S tables works pretty close (need to tune up =
somethings)..but cant get LQ and LR times match USGS Time Travel =
Calculator, example:
>=20
> Todays Taiwan Eq, (+-) 111 deg.
>=20
> My Tool:
> LQ 3522s 03:02:02
> LR 4025s 03:10:25
>=20
> USGS
>=20
> LQ 2824.90s 02:50:24=20
> LR 3135.24s 02:55:35
>=20
> I=B4m using P.jb, S.jb, LQ.jb and LR.jb tables found in WinQuake, if i =
go to the LQ.jb table and locate depth:20km ; 111deg, i found: 3494s, =
which is pretty close to my tool, but far for USGS results (and =
realistic results), to match USGS results i=B4ve to look to 90deg =
corresponding to 2827s.
>=20
> Does LQ.jb and LR.jb tables differ from P.jb and S.jb tables?
> Does anyone have clue where can be the problem?
>=20
> Best Regards,
> Tiago.
Hi Tiago -
One other comment on the LQ =
LR predicted arrival times.
The biggest problem =
is that the LQ & LR waves are surface waves and travel within the =
crust. There is wide variability in the makeup and thickness of =
the crust (oceanic or continental) and the differences significantly =
affect predicted wave arrival times. This is more noticeable as =
the distance between the event and the receiving station increases, and =
whether or not the waves pass through continental and/or oceanic crust. =
While there are travel times curves for surface waves, the wide =
variability in the makeup of the crust restricts the ability to =
accurately predict their arrival times. WinQuake is a great =
program and Larry has done a fantastic job with the program. The =
arrival times for body waves is accurate and usually within a second or =
two of the times obtained from both the SAC and TauP Tool Kit programs. =
The arrival times of Body waves, which =
are either refracted and or reflected by various layers below the crust =
have accurate arrival times which can be displayed by several programs =
including WinQuake, USGS, SAC, and the TauP Tool =
Kit.
NOTE - Neither SAC or TauP Tool Kit =
programs (used by seismologists) display predicted surface wave arrival =
times. Both WinQuake and the USGS display predicted surface wave =
arrival times, but I have observed differences in their predicted =
surface wave arrival times, and the actual arrival times observed on =
seismograms.
Bob =
Hancock
=
Hi.
I=B4ve been developing a online =
"Interactive Time Travel" for some time, P and S tables works pretty =
close (need to tune up somethings)..but cant get LQ and LR times match =
USGS Time Travel Calculator, example:
Todays Taiwan Eq, (+-) 111 deg.
My Tool:
LQ 3522s =
03:02:02
LR 4025s 03:10:25
USGS
LQ 2824.90s 02:50:24
LR 3135.24s 02:55:35
I=B4m using P.jb, S.jb, LQ.jb and LR.jb tables found in =
WinQuake, if i go to the LQ.jb table and locate depth:20km ; =
111deg, i found: 3494s, which is pretty =
close to my tool, but far for USGS results (and realistic results), =
to match USGS results i=B4ve to look to 90deg corresponding to 2827s.
Does LQ.jb and LR.jb tables differ from P.jb and S.jb =
tables?
Does anyone have clue where can be =
the problem?
Best =
Regards,
Tiago.
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